Everything Is Going to Be Fine

[JustNeedMe81]

I didn’t say either was. You asked the question if it was Charles Huff. I simply clarified it was Scott Huff.

Oh okay, I was just thinking out loud on those guys. that's all.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

I love Sam Pittman. And he still relatively young at age 63. My only question, after hip replacement surgery and seeing him on the sidelines with a cane, is “how much is left in the tank?”

Hard to say.............some can go on a long time

 

[bamajas]

So let me play devil’s advocate with you. Not an attack. Just a question. We saw many times this year where players were “pulled” for constantly making a mistake. Some for a play or two. Others (like Formby against USF) out of the game completely.

So you have a QB consistently doing the same thing habitually and you never pull him? I think we all know why at this point.

My thought is this; it is terrible message to send to your team that there in one level of acceptance for certain players and a completely different one for others. And at least in my mind that played a very large role in the inconsistency we saw this year.

This doesn't sound devil's advocate. I's a very valid question. I think it's clear he was treated differently. Sounds like you agree. At this stage--again with a 2nd staff in as many years--it's easier to believe there's more that we don't know than to believe that two entire offensive staffs don't coach the basics.

Is it "inexcusable" (your word) to not pull him? Maybe. We don't know the true "why."

But is it "inexcusable" that they didn't self-scout and some random Tik-Tokker discovered it before they did? That sounds like a big stretch for any major program. That was my point.

Ultimately the staff will have to answer for who played and why they stayed in or why they were pulled. But them being clueless is much more unlikely than a QB regressing to bad habits when his emotions are high

 

[RollTide_HTTR]

FWIW this article talks about the Milroe giving away run vs pass thing

Jalen Milroe Tipping Off the Defense: What I Noticed In Alabama's 19-13 Loss to Michigan

The Crimson Tide quarterback's pre-snap stance often revealed Alabama's approach, making it easier on the Maize and Blue defense.

www.si.com

 

[The Ols]

I dont know what they have against working at Bama............of course Rita didnt like Bama

…and here she is, full circle back in the land of Pat McAfee…solid choice Rita!

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

…and here she is, full circle back in the land of Pat McAfee…solid choice Rita!

Karma and all that

 

[REBELZED]

1. He wasn't doing the interview or any of that. He was praying in the tunnel and the camera came up to him. He does this every game.

2. I think it shouldn't be limited to just QB. I don't think you read my post carefully... and I don't appreciate the last line though... if you go back and read what I said, I said "Milroe deserves most of the blame for what happened on the field this season." I'm not sure how you were able to draw a conclusion that I was absolving Milroe of responsibility. I think that's the problem with the most of the fans... Everyone is choosing to pile on MIlroe, but won't address the OL bad performance, won't address Sheridan's performance as OC playcaller. Won't address CKD's handling of the situation. My point is this and it's very simple: We need to look at the situation as a whole, look at all of the factors beyond Milroe's. That's it. This is why I hate coming to the board lately... because nobody wants to take emotion out of the conversation and see different perspectives that's being offered and just learn to respect that person's opinon whether you agree or not.

1. I was just talking generally about what Milroe has done as a "leader" during his time as our QB. Others have mentioned it, but all this "first in the building" crap along with his disingenuous "leadership" and cheerleading when things are going well, but disappearing and/or sulking when things aren't going well. He has just always screamed to me like someone who was trying to play a leader rather than actually being one. And that's not necessarily a slight on him - being a real leader in a high stakes environment like this is not a simple or easy task.

2. I didn't mean any offense, your post just read to me like "yeah Milroe deserves blame BUT..." All I was saying is there should be no "but." The guy in the most important position SHOULD take the blame, especially when he is a large part of the problem (even if not ALL of the problem). The buck stops here. A lot of those other problems you mentioned wouldn't even be problems if we had just had a QB who could consistently perform basic QB tasks...

 

[Jack Bourbon]

Whats the plan at OT? That position needs drastic improvement.

 

[JDCrimson]

I keep seeing references to Milroe being as bad as Pennington. But let me say, Pennington did not have the supporting cast or OL that Milroe has enjoyed. Further, I don't remember him having a game as bad as what Milroe has had against OU or UM. And I can further guarantee that Pennington would have made a legitimate attempt to make the tackle against OU. And Pennington was not a me first guy. Pennington playing behind this OL throwing to these WRs could have beaten UM imo.

 

[LA BamaCarl]

I believe there is a way possible to get back on the right track that will not be that far fetched. Do what it takes to get Ryan Grub back as OC, get a proven OL coach, and move on from Milroe. Grubb was a big reason for DeBoer's past success and stayed with him a long time so they apparently were a good fit.

This would give everyone a fresh outlook and optimism going into a new year. I believe this would be easy financially and with Seattle's season would seem possible. We need something like this to put this disappointing season behind us.
Just a thought.

 

[jashleyren2]

Or you have a QB that can read the pressure and have pocket presence....get the ball out on time....

A competent QB helps the OL a lot.

Similar to how all the bad snaps were blamed on the center that transferred to tOSU. We still had too many fumbles and bad snap handling that occurred in 2024. The problem has been Milroe all along. We saw hints of it when he stood in for Young in 2022.

 

[crimsonaudio]

He has been doing it all year and the staff has tried to get him to stop doing it. But he either is actively refusing it or just can’t stop doing it.

I expect it's like the improvements we heard about from spring - they existed in practice but when the lights came on, he reverted.

 

[81usaf92]

I expect it's like the improvements we heard about from spring - they existed in practice but when the lights came on, he reverted.

There was a quarterback guru on ESPN that said he always dreaded working with athletic quarterbacks because for too long they have always been the hometown hero that could do it all based on pure talent. They were never taught the fundamentals of quarterbacking and it’s hard to unlearn things and get them to do the little things with their legs.

 

[gman4tide]

I think Brailsford acquitted himself pretty well at C this year though and he is undersized by typical SEC standards. Even guys like William Vlachos have been successful and that was back in the days of Terrence Cody-type DL. I know those are both centers, but we have had a number of "undersized" OL that have played really well for us.

Seems to me like technique and fit for a scheme are as important for OL as anything. And it also seems like those things were lacking for us this year. Hopefully CKD and crew can get it ironed out with a full offseason...

It ain't always about the size of the dog in the fight...lot to be said about the fight in the dog.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

I dont know what they have against working at Bama............of course Rita didnt like Bama

The south ain't for everyone. There's a huge culture change going from Seattle Washington to Tuscaloosa Alabama and not everyone likes it.

 

[gtgilbert]

1. He wasn't doing the interview or any of that. He was praying in the tunnel and the camera came up to him. He does this every game.

2. I think it shouldn't be limited to just QB. I don't think you read my post carefully... and I don't appreciate the last line though... if you go back and read what I said, I said "Milroe deserves most of the blame for what happened on the field this season." I'm not sure how you were able to draw a conclusion that I was absolving Milroe of responsibility. I think that's the problem with the most of the fans... Everyone is choosing to pile on MIlroe, but won't address the OL bad performance, won't address Sheridan's performance as OC playcaller. Won't address CKD's handling of the situation. My point is this and it's very simple: We need to look at the situation as a whole, look at all of the factors beyond Milroe's. That's it. This is why I hate coming to the board lately... because nobody wants to take emotion out of the conversation and see different perspectives that's being offered and just learn to respect that person's opinon whether you agree or not.

ok, but please consider this; you said in another post that we only installed about 10% of the offense because we didn't have the personnel. What part of that were we really missing and where were the skills lacking? It wasn't WR or TE. It wasn't RB. Maybe, maybe OL, but that's not going to pull 90% of your playbook out.

The issue was QB. Period. NILroe simply couldn't get a handle on the skills required to execute in the pass game.

Want to say Sheridan didn't make adjustments? Well, that's really hard to do with only 10% of the total playbook available because the QB can't execute. Only so many things to change to and teams have seen all of them.

Want to blame the WRs? They were open A LOT and didn't get the ball (look at WIlliams face on that overthrow).

Want to blame the RBs? They didn't get carries because NILroe wasn't good at making reads in the zone read game AND teams figured out how to bait him into keeps with safety support to limit him.

Want to blame the OL? Well, the QB is giving away pass/run with his stance so teams know when to pin their ears back and when to play run so the D has a HUGE advantage.

The only other person to possibly blame is CKD. He could have chosen to tell JM to transfer. in hindsight, probably should have. That would have risked sending some others to the portal also. It was a big risk. Once he didn't do that, the bed was made and not much he could do about it.

 

[CB4]

There was a quarterback guru on ESPN that said he always dreaded working with athletic quarterbacks because for too long they have always been the hometown hero that could do it all based on pure talent. They were never taught the fundamentals of quarterbacking and it’s hard to unlearn things and get them to do the little things with their legs.

Saw it all the time in baseball. Super athletic kid was allowed to be fundamentally poor because at a young age he simply “out-athleted” the kids his own age. As they got older trying to correct it was a nightmare, because in times of stress or pressure, they would revert to what was comfortable….bad fundamentals.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

The "problem" with eating steak is, once you've had it you don't want to go back to hamburgers and hotdogs. Saban got us used to steak for 16 years. I'm struggling going back to the burgers and hotdogs...

This season for me was like being forced to eat potted meat on saltines.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

ok, but please consider this; you said in another post that we only installed about 10% of the offense because we didn't have the personnel. What part of that were we really missing and where were the skills lacking? It wasn't WR or TE. It wasn't RB. Maybe, maybe OL, but that's not going to pull 90% of your playbook out.

The issue was QB. Period. NILroe simply couldn't get a handle on the skills required to execute in the pass game.

Want to say Sheridan didn't make adjustments? Well, that's really hard to do with only 10% of the total playbook available because the QB can't execute. Only so many things to change to and teams have seen all of them.

Want to blame the WRs? They were open A LOT and didn't get the ball (look at WIlliams face on that overthrow).

Want to blame the RBs? They didn't get carries because NILroe wasn't good at making reads in the zone read game AND teams figured out how to bait him into keeps with safety support to limit him.

Want to blame the OL? Well, the QB is giving away pass/run with his stance so teams know when to pin their ears back and when to play run so the D has a HUGE advantage.

The only other person to possibly blame is CKD. He could have chosen to tell JM to transfer. in hindsight, probably should have. That would have risked sending some others to the portal also. It was a big risk. Once he didn't do that, the bed was made and not much he could do about it.

You nailed it, Gilbert!

The QB is exactly why we only had 5-10% of the playbook available.

Since so many people (not aimed at you) keep saying that Simpson should have come in, let me remind them that the rest of the offensive players (OL, RB & WRs) were only practicing with the limited playbook as well. So its not like putting in Simpson would have made the rest (or any more) of the playbook available.

 

[JustNeedMe81]

ok, but please consider this; you said in another post that we only installed about 10% of the offense because we didn't have the personnel. What part of that were we really missing and where were the skills lacking? It wasn't WR or TE. It wasn't RB. Maybe, maybe OL, but that's not going to pull 90% of your playbook out.

The issue was QB. Period. NILroe simply couldn't get a handle on the skills required to execute in the pass game.

Want to say Sheridan didn't make adjustments? Well, that's really hard to do with only 10% of the total playbook available because the QB can't execute. Only so many things to change to and teams have seen all of them.

Want to blame the WRs? They were open A LOT and didn't get the ball (look at WIlliams face on that overthrow).

Want to blame the RBs? They didn't get carries because NILroe wasn't good at making reads in the zone read game AND teams figured out how to bait him into keeps with safety support to limit him.

Want to blame the OL? Well, the QB is giving away pass/run with his stance so teams know when to pin their ears back and when to play run so the D has a HUGE advantage.

The only other person to possibly blame is CKD. He could have chosen to tell JM to transfer. in hindsight, probably should have. That would have risked sending some others to the portal also. It was a big risk. Once he didn't do that, the bed was made and not much he could do about it.

Okay:

1. We did ran condensed offense. This has been said many times from people who is close to the program.
Alabama football's Kalen DeBoer: much of offense won't be installed

The reason? The offense must suit the personnel he inherited. "There's going to be a lot of our offense that we never install this year, just because of the players that we have," DeBoer said Wednesday on the SEC's weekly media teleconference. "There's going to be other elements of the system that we haven't used much the past few years, that we'll go draw upon."

The offense he really want to run requires different skillset at QB, OL and WR.

2. The RBs had same issue that we had last year: they couldn't find a hole to run through. Part of that is on RBs and their RB coach. Gillespie is the holdover from last year.

3. On Sheridan: You're trying to force a square in a circle argument. How many games did he call game clean this season? He called run plays in passing situation. he called passing plays in run situation. He isn't very good at finding rhythm with playcalling.

4. The OL- Again you're finding very reason to blame Milroe.. You pretty much proved the point. OL play was real bad this year, but yet you choose to ingore that part and blame it on Milroe 100 percent. The Tackles at both side gave up the most sacks this year.

5. How could you tell Milroe to transfer when he held the team together after CNS retired? This was Milroe's team. Like I said before... Gotta take emotion out of this and see things differently. I didn't want to go back and forth with everyone... But it seems like everyone isn't understanding the point I made and just chose to find a way to pile it on Milroe but isn't seeing the big picture... I hate that for some of us. But anyway Like I said to everyone... Nobody dont have to agree with me, but I'm not going back and forth with Milroe. My position on the situation still stand and I'm looking at it from netural perspective. I shared my thoughts on this.. and it's whatever. Happy new year! See you guys soon!