Grubb to be next OC at Bama per ESPN

[bamadwain]

Interesting - CKD must think Sheridan knows what he's doing with QBs despite what was happening on the field in 24.

It's been said from insiders, that the QBs really like Sheridan, remember he played QB at Michigan and he probably will be a good QB coach because he can concentrate on one position while also not calling plays

 

[bamajas]

Can lead a horse to water...

I am 100% sure that many coaches tried to teach him what he needed to learn. He either just can't get it, just can't execute it, or just thought he knew better and that he'd let them all know otherwise.

I'm even starting to wonder if BOB didn't so much tell him he couldn't play QB, but instead told him that he had to really improve in certain areas if he wanted to be able to play QB, and that if he didn't do those things, he didn't have a great chance.

Right. I'm with you, I'm not saying he didn't have it. The reasons he wouldn't benefit from the best coaching today are why he didn't learn it when he was first exposed to it ...

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Interesting - CKD must think Sheridan knows what he's doing with QBs despite what was happening on the field in 24.

Just because he isn't a very good OC doesn't mean he's not a good coach. I doubt the guy is worthless as a coach. We all bring different strengths and weaknesses to the table in life. A weakness in one area of my life doesn't negate the strengths in others. If he's been retained (rather than let go) it means he brings some sort of value.

 

[Jack Bourbon]

He may be more of a technician than a leader. Leaders and technicians are good at very different things. But you need both, just need them in the right roles.

 

[KrAzY3]

Just because he isn't a very good OC doesn't mean he's not a good coach. I doubt the guy is worthless as a coach. We all bring different strengths and weaknesses to the table in life. A weakness in one area of my life doesn't negate the strengths in others. If he's been retained (rather than let go) it means he brings some sort of value.

I'm not upset by Sheridan coaching QBs because I felt he couldn't cut it as a OC. Firstly, I've always been forgiving when a coach struggles to make a step up. Be it just at the NFL level, or from position coach to coordinator, or coordinator to head coach. A lot of people seem to want to write someone off as a failure just because they failed as a head coach.

McElwain for instance only got a WR coaching job after losing the Florida head coaching job. The guy won a couple national championships as an OC, he was head coach at Florida where he wasn't an absolute dumpster fire (worst full season was 9-4), but the only job waiting for him was WR coach? It's an odd sort of recency bias that is often repeated.

Anyway, despite my criticism of handling QBs with his play calling, that doesn't mean Sheridan's bad with QBs. It's a completely different thing to develop a relationship with a QB, to coach him in practice and try to develop his skills. For all I know he might have been a crucial part of Penix's development for example. I just felt he couldn't handle the actual game day stuff well and it's not necessarily the same thing.

There is one other aspect though, if Sheridan is making over a million guaranteed (I assume it was a two year guaranteed contract), it would be foolish to cut him loose with the new coaching rules. Put him to work if he's going to get paid anyway. If QB coach is where he's believed to be a good fit, so be it.

 

[some_al_fan]

DeBoer was effectively a QB coach last year during the camp. It will be interesting to see how DeBoer will be able to use his “free" time this year

 

[bamadwain]

I'm not upset by Sheridan coaching QBs because I felt he couldn't cut it as a OC. Firstly, I've always been forgiving when a coach struggles to make a step up. Be it just at the NFL level, or from position coach to coordinator, or coordinator to head coach. A lot of people seem to want to write someone off as a failure just because they failed as a head coach.

McElwain for instance only got a WR coaching job after losing the Florida head coaching job. The guy won a couple national championships as an OC, he was head coach at Florida where he wasn't an absolute dumpster fire (worst full season was 9-4), but the only job waiting for him was WR coach? It's an odd sort of recency bias that is often repeated.

Anyway, despite my criticism of handling QBs with his play calling, that doesn't mean Sheridan's bad with QBs. It's a completely different thing to develop a relationship with a QB, to coach him in practice and try to develop his skills. For all I know he might have been a crucial part of Penix's development for example. I just felt he couldn't handle the actual game day stuff well and it's not necessarily the same thing.

There is one other aspect though, if Sheridan is making over a million guaranteed (I assume it was a two year guaranteed contract), it would be foolish to cut him loose with the new coaching rules. Put him to work if he's going to get paid anyway. If QB coach is where he's believed to be a good fit, so be it.

Also Keelon Russell likes him a whole lot

 

[CrimsonTitles]

Just because he isn't a very good OC doesn't mean he's not a good coach. I doubt the guy is worthless as a coach. We all bring different strengths and weaknesses to the table in life. A weakness in one area of my life doesn't negate the strengths in others. If he's been retained (rather than let go) it means he brings some sort of value.

We also gotta keep mind that 36 is fairly young for an OC at a big time SEC program. There are plenty of guys who are really good OCs now, and weren't at 36. It's a little more common now with Rees, Dillingham, and Collin Klein, but those guys are prodigies. The fact that he's so highly thought of that he was promoted to OC at Indiana when he was 31, speaks a lot more than the results of this season, or even how he did at Indiana. He clearly has a promising football mind, or he wouldn't be so highly thought of in coaching circles, which I've heard he is. I heard Josh Pate say a few weeks ago that coaches were telling him that about Sheridan.

 

[lowend]

Sheridan may have given it 1000% and said all the right things, but QB1 didn't want to, or wasn't capable of, receiving that instruction and implementing it. I'm not judging anyone that had anything to do with the QB situation last year until I see what they do without LANK hanging over their heads.

 

[bravo6]

Just because he isn't a very good OC doesn't mean he's not a good coach. I doubt the guy is worthless as a coach. We all bring different strengths and weaknesses to the table in life. A weakness in one area of my life doesn't negate the strengths in others. If he's been retained (rather than let go) it means he brings some sort of value.

Conversations like this remind me of Mike Shula. Good/great QB coach, not so much as an OC, and nowhere close as a HC.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Conversations like this remind me of Mike Shula. Good/great QB coach, not so much as an OC, and nowhere close as a HC.

Correct, the Peter Principle, being promoted above one's competency. Shula was a perfect example of that and maybe that was the case with Sheridan. Either way, I'm just glad things are back to what they were originally intended to be when DeBoer initially was hired.