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CrimsonJazz said:
I haven't seen one shred of evidence to suggest that either he or anyone on SCOTUS has any intention of doing any such thing. The only people I have heard suggest otherwise are activists whose aversion to truth versus whatever advances their narrative is well established.

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Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago hosts gay wedding

Some conservatives responded to Mar-a-Lago's same-sex wedding with criticism.
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Thomas wants the Supreme Court to overturn landmark rulings that legalized contraception, same-sex marriage

In a concurring opinion to the Supreme Court's ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade, the conservative jurist called on the court to overrule a trio of watershed civil rights rulings, writing, "We have a duty to ‘correct the error’ established in those precedents.”
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Thomas wants the Supreme Court to overturn landmark rulings that legalized contraception, same-sex marriage
In a concurring opinion to the Supreme Court's ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade, the conservative jurist called on the court to overrule a trio of watershed civil rights rulings, writing, "We have a duty to ‘correct the error’ established in those precedents.”
 
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Huckleberry said:
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Thomas wants the Supreme Court to overturn landmark rulings that legalized contraception, same-sex marriage

In a concurring opinion to the Supreme Court's ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade, the conservative jurist called on the court to overrule a trio of watershed civil rights rulings, writing, "We have a duty to ‘correct the error’ established in those precedents.”
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Thomas wants the Supreme Court to overturn landmark rulings that legalized contraception, same-sex marriage
In a concurring opinion to the Supreme Court's ruling to overturn Roe v. Wade, the conservative jurist called on the court to overrule a trio of watershed civil rights rulings, writing, "We have a duty to ‘correct the error’ established in those precedents.”
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but i keep being told that this is totally not happening and that i'm just overreacting
 
CrimsonJazz said:
I never said that, nor was I interested enough to read all of it myself. One thing I did know is that I couldn't trust the document's critics because of their established habit of launching into hysterics over every little thing, legitimate or not. Remember, these are the same people that referred to anyone with the temerity to disagree with them as fascists. When stuff like this is their "go to" move, they shouldn't be surprised when no one takes them seriously.
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I said "like". It's an argument about similarity, not identity.

Trump has hosted gay weddings at MAL for Christ's sake. I haven't seen one shred of evidence to suggest that either he or anyone on SCOTUS has any intention of doing any such thing. The only people I have heard suggest otherwise are activists whose aversion to truth versus whatever advances their narrative is well established.

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Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago hosts gay wedding

Some conservatives responded to Mar-a-Lago's same-sex wedding with criticism.
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It's so cute that you use something Trump said as proof.

The right's antipathy towards the LGBTQ community is well-known and well documented. And while the SC did state in Obergfell that gay marriages are legal, since then they have made several rulings that nip at the edges of LGTBQ rights.
I haven't seen one shred of evidence to suggest that either he or anyone on SCOTUS has any intention of doing any such thing. The only people I have heard suggest otherwise are activists whose aversion to truth versus whatever advances their narrative is well established.
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If you haven't seen any evidence, then you cannot have been looking very closely. In his concurrence revoking the constitutional right to abortion, Clarence Thomas said explicitly that the court should revisit protections for gay marriage (Obergfell), gay relationships (Lawrence), and birth control (Griswold). And when Thomas or Alito criticize past opinions, it has been a clear indicator that they will be more than happy to reverse said opinion. At which point GOP operatives start looking for test cases that they can file in one particular district court in Texas.
 
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crimsonaudio said:
It's not a binary solution - do nothing vs pull out all of the stops to fight it. But unless it's an extinction level threat we have to make judicious choices as to how we address it - and when roughly 1/3 of the human population lives in two countries that are experiencing massive growth in power infrastructure via coal, there's only so much sacrifice that makes sense.

More to the point - humans have been forced to relocate and abandon certain parts of the world throughout history - we're a resilient species.
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What happens when major coastal cities worldwide become flooded and uninhabitable. We shouldn't continue to race to the abyss when we can take some remedial actions now.
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Bamaro said:
What happens when major coastal cities worldwide become flooded and uninhabitable. We shouldn't continue to race to the abyss when we can take some remedial actions now.
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No one is saying we shouldn’t try to address climate change - what I am saying the attitude that it’s worth destroying our economy or our economically handicapping ourselves while countries with 10x our total population continue to pump carbon into the air is fruitless. We cannot overcome what they’re doing.

Hence my point that we should do what we (reasonably) can while working on ensuring we’re as well-equipped as possible for our citizens to adapt.
 
crimsonaudio said:
No one is saying we shouldn’t try to address climate change - what I am saying the attitude that it’s worth destroying our economy or our economically handicapping ourselves while countries with 10x our total population continue to pump carbon into the air is fruitless. We cannot overcome what they’re doing.

Hence my point that we should do what we (reasonably) can while working on ensuring we’re as well-equipped as possible for our citizens to adapt.
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Hard to maintain a thriving economy if large portions of the country are underwater...
 
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Hard to maintain a thriving economy if large portions of the country are underwater...
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I agree, which is why I keep repeating that we need to work to mitigate that within reason while realizing it’s probabaly a hundred years away, if it happens at all. We’ve been told Florida would be under water for 40 years now. I expect that we’ll figure things out before Orlando is beach-front property.

And it’s also hard to have a thriving economy when you kneecap businesses who compete in the global economy against companies who get their power from much cheaper sources, like coal.
 
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SCOOP: Rep. Cory Mills is being evicted for failure to pay months of rent at his D.C. penthouse. Owner claims Mills owes $85,000. He was served with notice for failure to pay in January. Ledger shows he paid late nearly every month since moving in, missing several months entirely.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1944843953032839213

These people.....sigh. And we wonder why no one in Congress (Except for Paul and Massie) even seem interested in a balanced budget. Some of these clowns can't even handle their own personal finances and yet we expect them to make economic decisions that will benefit us all.
 
CrimsonJazz said:
SCOOP: Rep. Cory Mills is being evicted for failure to pay months of rent at his D.C. penthouse. Owner claims Mills owes $85,000. He was served with notice for failure to pay in January. Ledger shows he paid late nearly every month since moving in, missing several months entirely.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1944843953032839213

These people.....sigh. And we wonder why no one in Congress (Except for Paul and Massie) even seem interested in a balanced budget. Some of these clowns can't even handle their own personal finances and yet we expect them to make economic decisions that will benefit us all.
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Not sure of the number, but a few members of Congress who sleep in their offices? Given the high rent in DC.

 
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Its On A Slab said:
I have a friend who is gay. He was very adamantly against trans rights. I guess he thought that marriage equality was established case law.

I keep telling him that, with this Court, everything related to civil rights could be under the bull's eye.
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You wouldn't know it by listening to idiots in the media, but there are a LOT of gays in this country who feel the same way. It was (and still is) highly controversial for gays to come out with any sort of conservative view, but some are breaking their social shackles and doing it anyway. Why? Because they see their movement sliding backward as a tiny minority of people in this country are intentionally pushing boundaries as far as they can. The clapback against the gay community is being felt by all LBGs and they are sick of it. Can't say I blame them.
 
CrimsonJazz said:
You wouldn't know it by listening to idiots in the media, but there are a LOT of gays in this country who feel the same way. It was (and still is) highly controversial for gays to come out with any sort of conservative view, but some are breaking their social shackles and doing it anyway. Why? Because they see their movement sliding backward as a tiny minority of people in this country are intentionally pushing boundaries as far as they can. The clapback against the gay community is being felt by all LBGs and they are sick of it. Can't say I blame them.
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The T's grabbed on to the movement when it is really a totally separate issue.
 
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AWRTR said:
The T's grabbed on to the movement when it is really a totally separate issue.
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I agree somewhat about it being a separate issue. But failing to understand that people aren't really that tolerant of gays is a losing proposition. Support for same-sex marriage has dropped among Republicans over the past few years. I suspect it's because people are feeling more open about their bigotry. Like the rise of white nationalism. It's more acceptable to be intolerrant.
 
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Its On A Slab said:
Support for same-sex marriage has dropped among Republicans over the past few years. I suspect it's because people are feeling more open about their bigotry.
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No, it's for the reasons we've discussed. The trans business coupled with stupid **** like "drag queen story hour" are hurting the gay community. Some are fighting back; most are not because they'll be dragged through the mud as conservatives. The G's should never have allowed their movement to be highjacked, but they did so this is partly on them.

The pride thing has also hurt them tremendously. Most gay folk I know are just your average workaday people who work, pay their taxes, love their families and generally want to be left alone. They find the behavior at pride parades to be as abhorrent as the rest of us do. (Seriously, why is it a crime to expose yourself to children unless it's in a pride parade in broad daylight?) I feel bad for these folks because they really are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
 
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