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Hard to say no to Coach Saban. It's why he is the best in the business.
Hard to say no to Coach Saban. It's why he is the best in the business.
Alabama QB competition article
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Ridley 63 catches
Bo 17
Josh Jacobs 14
Robert Foster 14
Jeudy 14
Cam Sims 14
Irv Smith 14
When you figure that we played 14 games last year that means that we didn't have a receiver other than Ridley average more than one catch a game. It's shocking.
I was amazed the other day when looking at our reception totals for the year last year. They are downright embarassing. When you factor in that some of the totals would have come from Tua.
Ridley 63 catches
Bo 17
Josh Jacobs 14
Robert Foster 14
Jeudy 14
Cam Sims 14
Irv Smith 14
When you figure that we played 14 games last year that means that we didn't have a receiver other than Ridley average more than one catch a game. It's shocking.
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Not significant. JK Scott was the holder for most of the last couple of years. When Coker was the starter, Bateman was the holder. Nothing to read into this.
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understand, and that's exactly what I said about Blake getting help from another coach on his mechanics as a passer. That credit goes to Blake and the coach he worked with. There are two aspects to the QB development story though. One, the above with mechanics, footwork and throwing. Sounds simple, but we all know it's not. The other, which is just as critical to being a good QB is being able to make the right decisions pre-snap and in the highly compressed time post snap. It was kiffin who coached blake on how to make the right reads, understand how to see a player 'open' before he really was, throw to a space and where that space is, etc. The other coach couldn't have done that because he didn't know our scheme and play calls week to week. That was all Kiffin.
understand, and that's exactly what I said about Blake getting help from another coach on his mechanics as a passer. That credit goes to Blake and the coach he worked with. There are two aspects to the QB development story though. One, the above with mechanics, footwork and throwing. Sounds simple, but we all know it's not. The other, which is just as critical to being a good QB is being able to make the right decisions pre-snap and in the highly compressed time post snap. It was kiffin who coached blake on how to make the right reads, understand how to see a player 'open' before he really was, throw to a space and where that space is, etc. The other coach couldn't have done that because he didn't know our scheme and play calls week to week. That was all Kiffin.
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Maybe, but Kiffin got Jonathon Crompton drafted. Jonathan Crompton...
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That will change this year with Tua. Don't think for one second Saban hasn't already had this statistic on his desk and is the reason why he has stated over and over that whichever QB can distribute the ball to the entire offense will be the one who starts.
That will change this year with Tua. Don't think for one second Saban hasn't already had this statistic on his desk and is the reason why he has stated over and over that whichever QB can distribute the ball to the entire offense will be the one who starts.
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That's just ridiculous numbers.
That's just ridiculous numbers.
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AJ was the holder as well.. and he was the starter.
AJ was the holder as well.. and he was the starter.
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If I'm a top receiver there's almost no way I'm coming to play in that system unless 'Bama has been my dream since I could hold onto a football, and even then I'd question it really hard.
Numbers like that probably also cost Foster and Sims a lot of money.
No wonder we heard of unrest in the receiver room. Could you imagine having numbers like this and then reviewing the film and seeing yourself running WIDE OPEN multiple times and not even getting a chance at the ball?
If I'm a top receiver there's almost no way I'm coming to play in that system unless 'Bama has been my dream since I could hold onto a football, and even then I'd question it really hard.
Numbers like that probably also cost Foster and Sims a lot of money.
No wonder we heard of unrest in the receiver room. Could you imagine having numbers like this and then reviewing the film and seeing yourself running WIDE OPEN multiple times and not even getting a chance at the ball?
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I agree, if you are a top receiver, but it really only costs first rounders a lot of money these days, and neither RF nor CS was going to be a first rounder playing in any system. Foster looked to be a great receiver in HS, but his key drops and injuries cost him as much as Jalen did, IMO. And Sims got lost in Alabama's WR lineup.
I don't think that Jalen cost Alabama any WR recruits. The one year that it might have, Tua brought in huge crop of elite WR talent, and with Tua's play in the CFPCG, that ship sailed.
I agree, if you are a top receiver, but it really only costs first rounders a lot of money these days, and neither RF nor CS was going to be a first rounder playing in any system. Foster looked to be a great receiver in HS, but his key drops and injuries cost him as much as Jalen did, IMO. And Sims got lost in Alabama's WR lineup.
I don't think that Jalen cost Alabama any WR recruits. The one year that it might have, Tua brought in huge crop of elite WR talent, and with Tua's play in the CFPCG, that ship sailed.
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Pretty sure Ross wanted out of the state for the most part. You are correct in that coaches didn't recruit well and Saban wasn't as prepared for the early signing period as he would have liked.
Firmly believe that happened.
Easy - Kelly Bryant isn't good, and the defense scored enough to not need Tua.
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Pretty sure Ross wanted out of the state for the most part. You are correct in that coaches didn't recruit well and Saban wasn't as prepared for the early signing period as he would have liked.
Firmly believe that happened.
Easy - Kelly Bryant isn't good, and the defense scored enough to not need Tua.
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I'm with Buzzard, I hope that Tua wins and resolves this issue because we aren't taking advantage of what the defense is giving us. That's Coach Saban's main demand of a QB and I just don't think Hurts has consistently done that.
Look at the national champioship game. Jalen went 3/8 for 21 yards in the first half. I don't honestly remember who he passed to Im thinking it was probably 2 to Ridley and maybe one to a back. Tua goes 14/24.
Reception totals at end of game:
Ridley 4, Ruggs 3, Robert Foster 3, Damien 2, Sims 1, Hentges 1, Jeudy 1, Smith 1. A total of 9 different receivers caught passes in the game.
It's even more ridiculous when you consider that the opponent knows Ridley was pretty much our only option. He's a first round talent that gets all the balls so you know they were shading the defense to him. There had to be other opportunities for receivers.
I'm with Buzzard, I hope that Tua wins and resolves this issue because we aren't taking advantage of what the defense is giving us. That's Coach Saban's main demand of a QB and I just don't think Hurts has consistently done that.
Look at the national champioship game. Jalen went 3/8 for 21 yards in the first half. I don't honestly remember who he passed to Im thinking it was probably 2 to Ridley and maybe one to a back. Tua goes 14/24.
Reception totals at end of game:
Ridley 4, Ruggs 3, Robert Foster 3, Damien 2, Sims 1, Hentges 1, Jeudy 1, Smith 1. A total of 9 different receivers caught passes in the game.
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Last thing I am going to say about this. Tua starts if coach is gong by the Xs and Os. Tua went to every receiver in the second half of the CFP Championship. UGA had NO answer even with the defense they had. If Tua plays again Clemson it's uglier than 24-6. It would have been an ultimate beat down, that's why I am not so worried about Clemson's defense. Tua just brings the magic. I love Jalen and I wanted everything to go his way, but I have to face facts. Alabama is a greater team with Tua under center. The lanes just open up, that why N. Harris went off in the second half. He made one mistake on that INT because he had no idea what was going on and nobody else. We got the ball right back. I see #18 coming from him, I can't say the same about Jalen. He would come close though. Whatever the decision Coach makes though is good with me, but you have to wonder how the team feels about it. You saw in the second half how energized they were against UGA.
Last thing I am going to say about this. Tua starts if coach is gong by the Xs and Os. Tua went to every receiver in the second half of the CFP Championship. UGA had NO answer even with the defense they had. If Tua plays again Clemson it's uglier than 24-6. It would have been an ultimate beat down, that's why I am not so worried about Clemson's defense. Tua just brings the magic. I love Jalen and I wanted everything to go his way, but I have to face facts. Alabama is a greater team with Tua under center. The lanes just open up, that why N. Harris went off in the second half. He made one mistake on that INT because he had no idea what was going on and nobody else. We got the ball right back. I see #18 coming from him, I can't say the same about Jalen. He would come close though. Whatever the decision Coach makes though is good with me, but you have to wonder how the team feels about it. You saw in the second half how energized they were against UGA.
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Well, the top receiver in the state of Alabama specifically said “I do feel like they have to spread the ball around more, but it’ll come in due time,†Ross said. “I was expecting a bit more, to be honest. I didn’t get that. I’ll probably get that in the future, though.â€Â
But as we know, and as those statistics reveal, it didn't get better. He signed with Clemson.
Well, the top receiver in the state of Alabama specifically said “I do feel like they have to spread the ball around more, but it’ll come in due time,†Ross said. “I was expecting a bit more, to be honest. I didn’t get that. I’ll probably get that in the future, though.â€Â
But as we know, and as those statistics reveal, it didn't get better. He signed with Clemson.
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If, and I emphasize if, CNS decides to start Jalen or rotate him in the first couple of games with Tua, I believe the only reason for him to do that is to allow the team, media fans and most importantly Jalen and his dad to see (first hand) that Tua is the better distributor of the ball and that the offense runs more effeciently with Tua at the helm. This is the only reason I can understand why CNS would choose to put both of them out there because he really believes this can/will be settled on the field in games 1 and 2.
FWIW, I believe the evidence was sufficient in what happend in the NC game, but CNS has repeatedly said he was going to allow a fair competition this year between the two. Perhaps this whole ordeal is just CNS being true to what he said he would do.
If and when Tua wins the job, CNS will be able to say to Jalen and his family (and to future recruits) I did what I said I would do, fair and square.
And if it happens this way I think we should be OK with it. CNS will have allowed it to be settled on the field and the best player will be allowed to play. CNS has seen the difference in the two qbs last year and this fall and I really believe he's fully confident that Tua will clearly stand out above Jalen.
Again, this is the only reason I can imagine CNS has decided to possibly play both of them early this year.
If, and I emphasize if, CNS decides to start Jalen or rotate him in the first couple of games with Tua, I believe the only reason for him to do that is to allow the team, media fans and most importantly Jalen and his dad to see (first hand) that Tua is the better distributor of the ball and that the offense runs more effeciently with Tua at the helm. This is the only reason I can understand why CNS would choose to put both of them out there because he really believes this can/will be settled on the field in games 1 and 2.
FWIW, I believe the evidence was sufficient in what happend in the NC game, but CNS has repeatedly said he was going to allow a fair competition this year between the two. Perhaps this whole ordeal is just CNS being true to what he said he would do.
If and when Tua wins the job, CNS will be able to say to Jalen and his family (and to future recruits) I did what I said I would do, fair and square.
And if it happens this way I think we should be OK with it. CNS will have allowed it to be settled on the field and the best player will be allowed to play. CNS has seen the difference in the two qbs last year and this fall and I really believe he's fully confident that Tua will clearly stand out above Jalen.
Again, this is the only reason I can imagine CNS has decided to possibly play both of them early this year.
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I concur........
I concur........
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Take it for what it's worth. May be nothing
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm6L8saH1qI/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=ajzbu7jh70es
Take it for what it's worth. May be nothing
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bm6L8saH1qI/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=ajzbu7jh70es
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You gonna have to interpret...
You gonna have to interpret...
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Interesting....... the look on his face
Interesting....... the look on his face
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