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I found the video and it was really repetitive but Jalen did not improve much on any of the few points he had about his abilities.
 
JustNeedMe81 said:
https://247sports.com/college/alaba...idham-Jake-Browning-Trace-McSorely--119375369

Reier: Hurts made his second straight trip to MPA. Obviously, a lot has happened since his last visit to the camp. One thing we've grown to expect from him is a steadiness and demeanor that doesn't seem to get affected by things going on around him. Did you notice any difference in Jalen from last year to this year in that regard?
Morris: I think you nailed it; just a really steady kid. Kind of laid back, really comfortable in his own skin and really outgoing with the high school and middle school campers. I don't think anyone had more fun with those kids than he did. We were kind of close to each other during roll call every day and we were able to have some good conversations and obviously I got to coach him up during several workouts. I think he knows he wants to get better and be more consistent and he's working on that. He looked good down there. Physically, he's a guy that in that environment is impressive to watch.

Reier: With what you've seen from Jalen the last two years, do you believe he's fit specific or can he thrive in just about any offensive approach?
Morris: It's kind of hard for me to say. He's got the ability to make all the throws. He can do it. I guess it comes down to confidence and where his head is right now. It's tough; he's had three coordinators in three years. Not many people are in that situation and that's a tough environment. Physically, he reminds me a lot of Dak Prescott. Just the way he looks, the athleticism and strength. I think Dak has some of the best touch out there and Jalen probably needs to grow there. As far as looking the part and being able to make the throws, he can do it. Now, can you do it in an environment where bullets are flying and all that? He's had moments when he's shown that he can and then he's had moments when I think he's struggled. Is the struggle there because of a lack of confidence or a lack of reaction skills? I don't know, but I think if he's the starter I could see him having a monster year. It's hard to say what will happen because there are a lot variables, but he's capable.


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This sounds like Jalen is a head case when under pressure. That could be something he is unable to overcome.

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The video is nasty. But as the saying goes, film don't lie. That's especially true when you string a bunch from a single game. There were a few from Washington, but most were against Clemson, and it was worse than I'd remembered.

Then came the rattling off of statistics...more brutality.

It goes back to the LSU game of 2016. Before that, the combination of limited game film, calm demeanor and outrageous athleticism masked Jalen's weaknesses as a passer. LSU pantsed him, and the only reason we won that game was a total absence of offense by the Tigahs.

After that, the word was out -- stack the line, force quick decisions, cover Ridley tight, and funnel Jalen to the inside on the inevitable runs after the single Ridley read.

Every single opponent -- from the playoff final all the way down to Mercer -- knows the formula. Fortunately for us, due to our overall talent level, that's a whole lot easier said than done.

So it's a matter of having the horses to execute. Most teams don't. The ones that matter do.

The video reinforces what a number of posters have been saying for a long time -- the struggles come against good defenses, i.e., in the games that matter.
 
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Been a lot of talk about "fair" related to giving Jalen another chance. Question - would that be fair to the other 10 starters out on the field who are having a lot of their efforts wasted by a player who can't distribute the ball correctly to wide open receivers or make the right read on an option to the RB?

On the discussion of developing Jalen and blaming the Bama coaches. Does anyone really think that our OCs were not doing everything they could to help Jalen get better? Even with having a few OC's, the issues with Jalen were not different from one to another, nor did they have anything to do with an inability to learn a newly implemented system. They were fundamental in making more than one read, being able to lead a receiver, and making somewhat accurate passes. Also keep in mind that coaches are very limited in how much contact they can have with players outside of specific practice periods. It's not like Daboll could have spent a ton of time with Jalen in the offseason working with him. That's simply not allowed.

That video is brutal, but it's 100% true. Even when we were winning, and wining big, there was a lot of really poor play under the shiny veneer of all the other great players on the team. Remember in Jalen's first year the defense scored enough points to win 6 games even if the offense never scored a point. Play that great covers up a lot of bad stuff.
 
4Q Basket Case said:
The video is nasty. But as the saying goes, film don't lie. That's especially true when you string a bunch from a single game. There were a few from Washington, but most were against Clemson, and it was worse than I'd remembered.

Then came the rattling off of statistics...more brutality.

It goes back to the LSU game of 2016. Before that, the combination of limited game film, calm demeanor and outrageous athleticism masked Jalen's weaknesses as a passer. LSU pantsed him, and the only reason we won that game was a total absence of offense by the Tigahs.

After that, the word was out -- stack the line, force quick decisions, cover Ridley tight, and funnel Jalen to the inside on the inevitable runs after the single Ridley read.

Every single opponent -- from the playoff final all the way down to Mercer -- knows the formula. Fortunately for us, due to our overall talent level, that's a whole lot easier said than done.

So it's a matter of having the horses to execute. Most teams don't. The ones that matter do.

The video reinforces what a number of posters have been saying for a long time -- the struggles come against good defenses, i.e., in the games that matter.
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Believe so often that gets confused in how one player performs. Knowing the proper alignment, scheme, etc can only go so far when a team is out-manned or the offense is inept and continues to put the defense back on the field (2017 CFP Championship being a prime example).

Against teams with a top 50 pass efficiency defense, Jalen averages 12-21.2 for 139 yards, 1.1 TD, .5 INT and a 122.2 QB rating. Against everyone else? 15.1-22.6 for 194 yards, 1.7 TDs, .2 INT and a 177.5 QB rating.
 
TIDE-HSV said:
He could have made his point in a fraction of the time and footage...
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I agree. But there is an element to the length and repetitiveness that I find gives added weight the severity of the issue.

You can highlight and illustrate the core issues very quickly - but to detail how extensive and consistent these problems were showing up in each and every game has it's value, imho.
(Edit: I also recall him saying he had 40 minutes of footage that he trimmed in half to around 25 minutes.)
 
I kinda wish Jalen would watch that video. Or his dad. Then at least dad could stop with all that best college free agent in history nonsense. I had complained a lot about the underthrows, but I did not even notice as many of them as the guy shows in that video. And the hopstep? Never even saw that happening. The guy could have done the video and been a little cleaner with the language, just for the benefit of making it linkable for those with delicate ears, but I don't know that he could be any less harsh, given what he is showing us. I hope he does one on the whole 2017 season and also does one on the read options that Jalen missed as well. I have been saying I thought there were many times he ran when he should have handed it to the RB on those plays.
 
The video could have been more brutal. It only covered 2016 and the FSU game. If he had shown the rest of 2017 it could have been a 60 minute video easily.

Yeah it would have been repetitive but that's the point. Two years of the same under-thrown balls and absolutely HORRID sideline throws.

It was crazy seeing it all compact like that with Ridley, Stewart, OJ and others having DB's just roasted for should be TD's but having to come back and catch a jump ball.

Then those sideline throws. Just YIKES man. They were waaaaaaaaaaaay off-target.

He can't throw on the run either which is usually where 'Dual-Threat' QB's are at their most dangerous.

All of that and we still aren't even covering his regression avoiding negative plays. In 2017 instead of throwing the ball away on busted plays he was stepping out of bounds and taking 5-6 yard losses!!!

Then some of the worst stuff in the video was seeing WR's WIDE OPEN with no DB or Safety around and Jalen not seeing them or seeing them but not throwing it.

It's amazing that it took until deep into 2017 before the WR's were ready to revolt.
 
4Q Basket Case said:
The video is nasty. But as the saying goes, film don't lie. That's especially true when you string a bunch from a single game. There were a few from Washington, but most were against Clemson, and it was worse than I'd remembered.

Then came the rattling off of statistics...more brutality.

It goes back to the LSU game of 2016. Before that, the combination of limited game film, calm demeanor and outrageous athleticism masked Jalen's weaknesses as a passer. LSU pantsed him, and the only reason we won that game was a total absence of offense by the Tigahs.

After that, the word was out -- stack the line, force quick decisions, cover Ridley tight, and funnel Jalen to the inside on the inevitable runs after the single Ridley read.

Every single opponent -- from the playoff final all the way down to Mercer -- knows the formula. Fortunately for us, due to our overall talent level, that's a whole lot easier said than done.

So it's a matter of having the horses to execute. Most teams don't. The ones that matter do.

The video reinforces what a number of posters have been saying for a long time -- the struggles come against good defenses, i.e., in the games that matter.
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I disagree on this point. The video shows him struggling against almost every team we played. The difference is that it only mattered when we were playing against good teams. Our better talent and coaching made up for all of his shortcomings in the other games, but we were basically playing with one arm tied behind our back against the better teams.
 
The fellow in the video was spot on, if brutal.

Nearly universally we all knew there were problems in Jalen's game. Nearly universally, we've all come to the conclusion that those problems were masked by the talent around him.

Jalen is a fine young man. He's just the kind of young man of whom we can all be proud. That should not be forgotten.

Tua is just worlds better passing the ball.

Heck, that other fellow - his name doesn't matter - was a better passer.

Tua is also a smart player to boot.

The last two years it has been difficult to watch the stutter stop offense that has been on the field. The inconsistency gave us heartburn and at times was unbearable.

The offense with Tua is going to be fun to watch. Hopefully there is no sophomore slump and he is able to pick up where he left off.
 
Wow. What a video. I would bet any QB coach would have a field day if they sat Jalen down and was honest with him. This video consolidates exactly what was frustrating me to no end during this last season. I can't imagine the frustration of the receivers and the coaches. What is scary to think about is how long Coach Saban let this go on. It was obvious at the end of the season that teams were playing us and challenging us to beat them with the pass. For me, it is obvious. The QB job is Tua's. All this talk about fairness and winning the team over is just chatter. The team responded to Tua in the championship game. I am excited thinking about how good our offense is going to be with a QB who can throw the ball and play the position. The running game will benefit - the OL will benefit - the defense will benefit (fewer 3 and outs) and we can dictate what we want to do and keep defenses reeling (just like Georgia). Roll Tide!
 
Crimson White said:
What is scarier is that he says they both still have a shot at the job

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...terback-competition/od0xmgbvv9ju1k5vo06yndmix
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That story was published back on March 2, before the spring game so there's a chance Coach Saban has changed his mind. We all know about Coach Saban's "hot mic" comments during the game. My feelings are that Tua will be the starter as long as he doesn't turn the ball over an excessive amount. Jalen will mostly play in mop up duty unless Tua commits too many turnovers in which case Jalen will be given a chance to reclaim the starting role.
 
PA Tide Fan said:
That story was published back on March 2, before the spring game so there's a chance Coach Saban has changed his mind. We all know about Coach Saban's "hot mic" comments during the game. My feelings are that Tua will be the starter as long as he doesn't turn the ball over an excessive amount. Jalen will mostly play in mop up duty unless Tua commits too many turnovers in which case Jalen will be given a chance to reclaim the starting role.
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Plus, even if he felt differently, he wouldn't say so to the media in that manner. Not without having a talk with the kids involved first. I completely understand why he does this, but as a fan it can be a bit maddening waiting all this time to find out. I sure hope we don't wait until Christmas just to open our present and find out Santa just brought us socks...again.
 
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This is football related right?
 
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