News Article: Chief Justice Roberts agrees to personally review the Obama qualification case

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I don't know if any of this is true or not. I have a hard time believing he would have gotten this far without it popping up if there actually were a problem, but I can't say it's impossible either. After all, there are still lots of people who think President Bush "stole" the 2000 election from Al Gore, which is about as crazy as thinking that Kennedy, the unions, and the Chicago mob stole the 1960 election from Nixon. Wait a minute . . . .

A couple things, however. The issue is a big issue in that qualification is important. As an example, a poster mentioned that Justice Roberts administered the oath of office not once but twice. If the little details don't matter, as some here seem to think, then why was this necessary? I liken it to all of the picky (and seemingly insane) rules of law regarding jurisdiction, standing, and the like - what most folks refer to as technicalities. However, these are obviously important, or we wouldn't have them and we certainly would not spend as much time arguing over them.

As to the citation for contempt, I will not attempt to reach the merits of that matter. However, I would point out that the decision of whether or not to actually cite for contempt lies solely in the discretion of the presiding judge. It is very likely that the vast majority of persons before the court who are actually in contempt are not actually cited for the same. I don't know the presiding judge or even what court it is in, but I would submit that unless he or she is a life-appointed federal judge, the fact that he or she is a judge means that he or she had to be politically astute enough to know not to cite the POTUS (or a candidate and likely winner of the election for same) for contempt of court.
 

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I repeat--if he has defied a court order, why hasn't he been cited for contempt?
Many, many people defy court orders and are not cited for contempt. It's left up to the judge. Furthermore, you're bashing all of these people by guffawing at the idea that "Snopes is in on it" and "Oh, now they've got so and so, too!" Well, what about the report that Obama defied the court order? THAT outlet must be biased...the other--the one that supports your view--couldn't possibly be biased, right?
 

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Many, many people defy court orders and are not cited for contempt. It's left up to the judge. Furthermore, you're bashing all of these people by guffawing at the idea that "Snopes is in on it" and "Oh, now they've got so and so, too!" Well, what about the report that Obama defied the court order? THAT outlet must be biased...the other--the one that supports your view--couldn't possibly be biased, right?
1. You and I both know that if Obama had defied a court order, FoxNews would work it into every single report, and that Rush would only refer to Obama as "Barack Obama, who thinks he is above the law".

2. I have provided multiple sites, some of which, though hardly infallible, have a reputation for accuracy. You offer an article hotlinked from NewsMax.

3. Please review this thread and explain to me where I have bashed anyone. Is it possible that your response to my legitimate questions is...biased?
 

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Exhibit A in the Roberts review: Proof that Obama is evil and his supporters are the minions of Satan​

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[url]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92835[/URL] here is another ex military officer,westpoint grad. no less, that is taking action aginst the imposter and chief.
1. He graduated from Annapolis, not West Point. Read, please.
2. Interesting that while he mentions his class, he does not mention his rank. You'd think he'd have something like Cmdr, USN (retired). Oh, there it is. He was court martialed.
3. A whole lot of accusations and no specifics.
4. He accuses Obama of using 'contrivance, concealment, dissembling and deceit' to achieve office. That distinguishes him from other politicians...how, exactly? I certainly didn't see the author sling those epithets at W.
5. WorldNetDaily. The site that makes NewsMax look reputable.
 
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Would the site be credible if it were owned by a crippled, black, hispanic, lesbian, muslin veteran? :eek2:
For all I know, it IS owned by a crippled, black, hispanic, lesbian, muslin veteran. Though I'm at something of a loss to see how someone can be a veteran of cloth. ;)

The ownership isn't the point. It would be more credible if the material it published had a less tenuous link with reality.
 
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For all I know, it IS owned by a crippled, black, hispanic, lesbian, muslin veteran. Though I'm at something of a loss to see how someone can be a veteran of cloth. ;)

The ownership isn't the point. It would be more credible if the material it published had a less tenuous link with reality.
yep ,those who believe in and stand up for the constitution are out of touch with reality.:rolleyes:
 

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What makes you think that he does believe in the Constitution? What makes you believe that he is standing up for it?
any rational,logical person who dosent have upside down thinking who read the aritcle will obviously understand that fitzgerald loves his country and its constitution. so i would assume in your mind Barry soetoro[sp/?] aka barack obama is more of a defender of the constitution than fitzgerald?
 

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so i would assume in your mind Barry soetoro[sp/?] aka barack obama is more of a defender of the constitution than fitzgerald?
That's President Obama to you :biggrin:

and, just a technicality, is there such a thing as a rational, logical person with upside down thinking? ;)
 

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any rational,logical person who dosent have upside down thinking who read the aritcle will obviously understand that fitzgerald loves his country and its constitution. so i would assume in your mind Barry soetoro[sp/?] aka barack obama is more of a defender of the constitution than fitzgerald?
Oh, where to begin...

Let's ignore the fact that you blindly accept article's TRUTH is manifest, when the very existence of this thread suggests otherwise.

Let's ignore the fact that the person you are lauding as a defender of the constitution was thrown out of the Navy.

Let's even ignore the fact that loving one's country does not automatically make one a defender of the Constitution (See G. Gordon Liddy and Oliver North for details).

There is nothing in the WND article that offers any evidence for Fitzpatrick's claim. The article is, however, very similar to the WND article you posted several days ago--in that one, a whackjob was visted by US Marshalls because he sent a threatening letter to a federal judge, and you were outraged. There again, you blindly accepted the article's truth as manifest.

Now you are outraged over another letter from another whackjob.

Doubting the validity of this guy's claim does not require being upside down, having lead poisoning, a subdural hematoma, or even a too-tight necktie. I'm not sure that the same can be said of the requirements for accepting his claim.
 

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it was obviously clear enough for those that make the decisions in these matters.

unless they are in on this too . . . ;)
LOL...yeah...about as clear as the current financial crisis was to the various federal regulatory bodies, and about as clear as the Madoff Ponzi Scheme was to the SEC...we all know the federal government is infallible (weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, etc.).
 

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