Colt McCoy (and dad) statements that really tick me off (video)

[AIIIGHTTT]

Feel bad for em..........didn't know they were sore losers. Goodmess.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Feel bad for em..........didn't know they were sore losers. Goodmess.

We were warned. However, it's unbelievable that it's still possible to visit some of their boards and the "we would have won with dear Colt" threads are still on the front page. It takes whining to a whole new level...

 

[GoBamaJags]

Hmm... Let's see. The moral victories against us (moral losses for us, I guess) last year - UTe, AU, UTw. Was there anyone else who felt that they really morally beat us?

Don't forget LSU. Peterson's foot was inbounds and Jarret Lee was about to march down field for the go ahead TD!

Although I haven't had much time to even lurk the last week, PDL beat me to the LSU response.

I'll just say it in pictures...

 

[GoBamaJags]

The Germans knew what Patton was doing before he did it too ... stopping him was a different story however.

A little different level, but danged accurate!

I remember watching Nebraska play (destroy) Tennessee in a bowl game a few years ago. Nebraska had two 90 plus yard drives in a row, and I don't think they threw the ball once.

"We're going to run the ball to the left side of the line. Ya'll see if you can stop it this time".

Well said Ghost.

 

[BamaRevT]

Takes all kinds. Roll Tide anyway !!

 

[IH8Orange]

The Germans knew what Patton was doing before he did it too ... stopping him was a different story however.

Arguably Patton's most decisive victory involved the Germans thinking that they knew what he was going to do and him not doing it and Patton's forces never even fired a shot in anger.

During the buildup to Operation Overlord in early 1944, Patton was given command of a army in southeastern Britain... basically across the channel from the port of Calais, France.

The Germans were so fearful of Patton, they placed the bulk of their forces in the area around Calais to stop him. There were other reasons for believing that Calais would be the location for an Allied invasion, but having Patton just across the channel sealed the deal for the German High Command.

Patton's army was more farce than force. Many fake buildings, vehicles and other fake implements of war were placed in the area to persuade German reconnaissance flights that a huge army, under Patton, was gathering for the invasion. An entire campaign of deception drove home the feint.

When the invasion did come, it happened in Normandy which is far southwest of Calais. However, the Germans were so convinced that Patton - who was still in England - would lead the invasion that they held back the bulk of their forces in the Calais area until it was too late to stop the invasion. When their forces finally did move south, the Allied foothold was firm and our air forces slaughtered the Germans en masse.

 

[BamaSully]

Although I haven't had much time to even lurk the last week, PDL beat me to the LSU response.

I'll just say it in pictures...

That is awesome! I love it!

Guys I must admit I was not aware that Texas fans are saying we would not have won if McCoy hadn't gotten hurt. I only saw the video that is linked at the top of this thread.

Anyway... WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!

 

[Rasputin]

[/B]

I have to disagree.
The guys from Texas seem to have a different definition of 'Classy' than we do.
I would have felt differently if Texas had said: "It was a tough game, we had a critical injury and it hurt our chances to win. ALSO...
We could not find the right Defense to stop the Alabama Offense. We could not hold them to 3 and out." A statement like that would have reflected reality and would have shown a little class. Instead Texas's comments sounded like they were written by someone from the 'Lee Co' API team...

The bottom line is you have fans from both sides that make excuses and are 'classy' and not.

We have a huge group of fans, to this day, that won't give Utah a shred of credit for beating us, because of A. Smith not playing. I am not naive enough to think that his early departure did not have a direct correlation on that game, but it is what it is...We lost!

The Texas fan base has some of the same...Fans that recognize that they lost, and understand that their legitimate shot of beating us went out the window with McCoy's early departure. And the 'extremist fan' who believes that they would have without a doubt won, if McCoy would have played a whole game.

These fans are on both sides, so hold your fire! :biggrin2:

 

[Hal Bennett]

Having read through all seven pages of these posts, I think. . . . .

Texas IS an elite football program. They are up there with Notre Dame, Alabama, Michigan, Southern Cal, Nebraska, Ohio State. Florida and Miami are both Johnny-come-latelys (as Nebraska is to an extent). But the greatness of Texas football was established several decades ago. Furthermore, I don't think the recent ESPN-led sports media has given Darrell Royal enough credit. That man was one of the greatest coaches, and he did it at Texas. UT rules the state of Texas, where there are several bigtime football schools. They all want to be Texas, but there is only one Austin. Just ask any Texas A&M fan what he thinks of UT, and you will get the picture.

One of the historical traits of Alabama football is that there is indeed a consciousness of history. When we beat Miami in the 1993 Sugar Bowl, there was more than just the feeling that we had shut up the loudmouthed Miami players and knocked Gino Torreta on his butt. There was a sense of knocking this brash young program back on its heels, enough so that it took them a while to get back on track.

Those of you who were in Pasadena most probably didn't see the discussion on the TV (ESPN) pre-game about how Joe Namath was stopped on the goal line in the 1965 Orange Bowl, and how Mac Brown held up the hook 'em horns sign and quoted Tommy Nobis as saying that Namath missed scoring "this much."

And then there was this palaver from Texas fans before the game about how Alabama had never beat Texas, and that Bear Bryant had only beaten Texas once when he was at A&M.

GUess what? Alabama goes out there, and on one of the first plays of the game takes out the Texas quarterback, thus reversing history. The whining we as a nation have done about Namath's scoring, and then having the score taken away, was reversed. If you want to read the best description of how that happened in 1965, read Gaylon McCullough's recent account of it in The Long Shadow of Coach Paul "Bear" Bryant. Yes, Texas fans whine, but so do we, and sooner or later Alabama football backs up the whining by reversing history.

I don't have the least bit of acrimony over what McCoy's father said about "carving" us up. I thought that the whole Texas scene on TV was class, pure and simple. I thought Colt McCoy was ALL-class, and I thought his parents were the same. They WERE class. And I thought that the father, who I gathered is himself a coach, was as cool as a cucumber throughout the crisis. He had taught his son to be a winner, the biggest winner in the history of that program. His comments about his son were no more, no less than I would have expected. Colt McCoy is a winner, but he met the fate a lot of teams have met down through the years when they play the University of Alabama.

I have recently played back Alabama's 31-0 defeat of Nick Saban's LSU team in 2002 at Tiger Stadium. At the outset of the broadcast, Mike Gottfried remarks to Mike Franklin (I think those are the right names -- they made a great broadcast team), "LSU has four 'Coke machines' on the defensive line of scrimmage." That is the Nick Saban way. Colt McCoy ran into another row of Saban's "Coke machines." That is Nick Saban football, and it is Alabama football. You play against Alabama, and you are going to encounter some defense. In fact, LSU's 2002 defense was ranked #1 in the nation at that time, and Alabama's, with Jarrett Johnson and Kindal Morehead, was #3. Colt McCoy learned about defense at Alabama the hard way, and he may understand it better as time goes by.

 

[BamaFanTraeInGeorgia]

Arguably Patton's most decisive victory involved the Germans thinking that they knew what he was going to do and him not doing it and Patton's forces never even fired a shot in anger.

During the buildup to Operation Overlord in early 1944, Patton was given command of a army in southeastern Britain... basically across the channel from the port of Calais, France.

The Germans were so fearful of Patton, they placed the bulk of their forces in the area around Calais to stop him. There were other reasons for believing that Calais would be the location for an Allied invasion, but having Patton just across the channel sealed the deal for the German High Command.

Patton's army was more farce than force. Many fake buildings, vehicles and other fake implements of war were placed in the area to persuade German reconnaissance flights that a huge army, under Patton, was gathering for the invasion. An entire campaign of deception drove home the feint.

When the invasion did come, it happened in Normandy which is far southwest of Calais. However, the Germans were so convinced that Patton - who was still in England - would lead the invasion that they held back the bulk of their forces in the Calais area until it was too late to stop the invasion. When their forces finally did move south, the Allied foothold was firm and our air forces slaughtered the Germans en masse.

This is true for the most part, but many of Hitler's generals advised him that the Allies were indeed going to come ashore on Normandy. A lot of historians now believe that Hitler sanity was more or less gone by this time, and he would not listen to their reason. I have also read where some of these generals would say later that Hitler intetionally believed in GDM's balloon army so that the war would end quicker. I think this theory is a little far-fetched, but who would have ever thought that someone would want to kill 6 million Jews either?

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Arguably Patton's most decisive victory involved the Germans thinking that they knew what he was going to do and him not doing it and Patton's forces never even fired a shot in anger.

During the buildup to Operation Overlord in early 1944, Patton was given command of a army in southeastern Britain... basically across the channel from the port of Calais, France.

The Germans were so fearful of Patton, they placed the bulk of their forces in the area around Calais to stop him. There were other reasons for believing that Calais would be the location for an Allied invasion, but having Patton just across the channel sealed the deal for the German High Command.

Patton's army was more farce than force. Many fake buildings, vehicles and other fake implements of war were placed in the area to persuade German reconnaissance flights that a huge army, under Patton, was gathering for the invasion. An entire campaign of deception drove home the feint.

When the invasion did come, it happened in Normandy which is far southwest of Calais. However, the Germans were so convinced that Patton - who was still in England - would lead the invasion that they held back the bulk of their forces in the Calais area until it was too late to stop the invasion. When their forces finally did move south, the Allied foothold was firm and our air forces slaughtered the Germans en masse.

When I started reading your post, I wondered if you were going to mention all the plywood mockups, even down to wooden LSTs. In addition, the Oberkommando did have a division of opinion and what resources weren't in Calais, were in the Low Countries. We also did some dirty tricks - false message intercepts, etc. - to indicate that we might be coming further to the east. In Normandy, what they had were mostly kids, old men, and "Volksdeutsch" - German-speaking Romanians and the like.

BTW, I most certainly do not agree with the statement that UA fans = UT fans. I read many boards (part of my "job" description here), and the UT fans are in a class of their own with whining. They went straight from irrational exuberance to exuberant whining. IMO - UA fans >>>UT fans...

 

[IH8Orange]

This is true for the most part, but many of Hitler's generals advised him that the Allies were indeed going to come ashore on Normandy. A lot of historians now believe that Hitler sanity was more or less gone by this time, and he would not listen to their reason. I have also read where some of these generals would say later that Hitler intetionally believed in GDM's balloon army so that the war would end quicker. I think this theory is a little far-fetched, but who would have ever thought that someone would want to kill 6 million Jews either?

After the war, both Colonel General Jodl and Field Marshal Kietel stated that there was some dissention over whether the main thrust would be in Normandy or at Calais and immediately after the Normandy landings, the German High Command thought that Normandy was the main thrust. They asked Hitler to release the forces around Calais and he refused.

Initially, they disagreed with Hitler's decision but there was continued activity around southeast England where Patton's First U.S. Army Group (FUSAG) was located. They became convinced in the days following the Normandy landings that it was a feint and that the main thrust was soon to come at Calais. Of course, they were wrong and by the time they finally figured it out, it was too late.

Anyway, it's nice to see another history buff here. We'd better get back to football before we get booted.

 

[IH8Orange]

When I started reading your post, I wondered if you were going to mention all the plywood mockups, even down to wooden LSTs. In addition, the Oberkommando did have a division of opinion and what resources weren't in Calais, were in the Low Countries. We also did some dirty tricks - false message intercepts, etc. - to indicate that we might be coming further to the east. In Normandy, what they had were mostly kids, old men, and "Volksdeutsch" - German-speaking Romanians and the like.

BTW, I most certainly do not agree with the statement that UA fans = UT fans. I read many boards (part of my "job" description here), and the UT fans are in a class of their own with whining. They went straight from irrational exuberance to exuberant whining. IMO - UA fans >>>UT fans...

The deception campaign was a thing of beauty. They were so thorough that at Dover, they used pyrotechnics to simulate oil rig explosions and created thick, black smoke clouds whenever the German guns near Calais shelled the port. They also moved the fake equipment every night and created fake tread and tire marks in the fields so that the Germans would think that the equipment was mobile.

 

[BAMA504]

Carving us up??? LMAO..... Me thinks daddy might have a drinking problem~!~

If he wants I can send him game film and it will be the short version as in since colt was only in there for about what 8 minutes or something he won't have much to watch... Delusional thinking coming from the West and the East now~!~

 

[TIDE-HSV]

The deception campaign was a thing of beauty. They were so thorough that at Dover, they used pyrotechnics to simulate oil rig explosions and created thick, black smoke clouds whenever the German guns near Calais shelled the port. They also moved the fake equipment every night and created fake tread and tire marks in the fields so that the Germans would think that the equipment was mobile.

You'll not get booted by this history buff. I had two brothers fighting in that war. It was a beautiful piece of deception. At that, some of our own SNAFUs almost defeated the invasion - soldiers being dumped into water over their heads, etc. Have you read Shirer's work? You can PM me. I guess we need to pull the WWII stuff off the thread...

 

[BamaBuc]

He can be bitter all he wants. Regardless of what he says or thinks and regardless of all of the coulda, shoulda, woulda, the trophy still says University of Alabama, 2009 National Champions!

What he said!^ NOTHING says it any better!