Link: Gary Danielson makes it clear he doesn't like Alabama, but says they are #2

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Yeah, thankfully Danielson doesn't have much influence in these matters. I think that's part of his problem, he knows his voice doesn't carry much weight.

Most every honest media member realizes that there is no team except Alabama that can challenge and beat LSU. And by the way, I'm getting tired of hearing that this is some sort of loophole created by the BCS. This has nothing to do with the BCS. Under any possible system out there, Alabama would be alive for the national championship. Under the old system, LSU would be going to the Sugar Bowl, and Alabama would likely be going to the Orange or Fiesta. Or the Sugar Bowl could even have elected to put Alabama against LSU in a rematch. Alabama would still be ranked #2 right now, without the BCS. The Sugar Bowl did this before, back in 1994 and 1996, putting Florida and Florida State against one another in rematches.

Or say we did have a playoff. Make it a 4 team, 8 team, or even 16 team playoff. Alabama would be in, and they'd be odds on favorites to make it to the championship game unless they were in LSU's side of the bracket. In either case we'd have, what? A rematch. This notion that this is a bad thing that the BCS has created is absurd. These are the two best teams in the country, by far, and they were going to have to go through one another more than once to win the championship, under any system.
A voice of reason. Take note Danielson, its not just a "mute" point he is making here.
 

SimplyTide

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My read of the video is that GD just does not want to see a rematch of a game played earlier in the season. If Oregon had won out, he wouldn't want to see that game in the BCSCG either. I don;t see anti-Alabama bias as much as anti-rematch bias.
Still, as GD said, it's the system we have in place, to pit #1 against #2. It's just unusual that they both come from the same division of the same conference.
I agree - but his attempts to convince voters to place a team in the BCSCG that he admits would be inferior to Alabama because he is personally opposed to rematches is misguided.
 

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The unfortunate thing in this entire matter is not Danielson's opinion's or LSU bias. In my opinion, it really is a problem that we Bama fans have to listen to him broadcast Bama games. I would be perfectly happy if he was doing other teams or conferences games and expressing these opinions.

Unfortunately CBS does a lot of Bama games and GD and Dern Tonguetwist end up in my ear while I am trying to enjoy a Bama game. I personally can not give a penny for his opinions about Bama or a rematch. It is not his place to run down Bama or Trent Richardson Heisman chances. Trent Richardson got better Heisman airplay during the ABC broadcast of the Stanford/ND game than they did on Bama's home network CBS. I kid you not.

Anyone can call that thin skin or whatever? It is not that, it is an irratation and annoyance of having to listen to him if I want to watch a Bama game on CBS. That is the bottom line. If Danielson was calling exclusively PAC Ten games and was railing against a Bama/LSU rematch but was pushing for an Oregon/LSU rematch. I would not care in the least bit.

Thank God for the CTSN, Eli Gold and a DVR. I can easily sync up the CTSN Internet Radio broadcast with the CBS TV video broadcast. That is a very good thing, it makes GD and Dern literally a 'mute' point for me. Except when their antics are brought to my attention on this board. lol
 
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Until every conference plays a conference championship game (or not) equally...that argument really shouldn't hold water though. And that is a blight of sorts in my opinion in the BCS. However, all teams have played under these rules since the BCS creation knowing that, so you can't gripe now just because you don't happen to like one of the two teams thats in it. Its not fair that ND gets an automatic bid over other teams but doesn't play in a conference either, but its the system in place and accepted. We're just fortunate ND stinks and can't stay ranked.
I don't see how any reasonably sane person could look at the Top Five teams and not see how BAMA is clearly the better of all the one-loss teams, taking into account all the records and losses.
And for those crying Bama had their chance...so did OSU. They had already jumped BAMA and Stanford was threatening to, but both BLEW IT!

No system is going to be perfect but the BCS has gotten it right more times than not.

As I said, I won't really be comfortable with all the "BAMA is a lock" talk until after I see what happens next week. I think we're in and are deserving, but you never know. Its a crazy year.
 

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Bad choice of words then.

But again: What influence do you think he has? Why waste the time and give him attention? Basically... why feed the troll?
By virtue of being a mouthpiece for CBS Sports - an SEC network - his words, however idiotic - can influence. He is quoted on television, radio, newspaper and across the internet. People who aren't as close to Bama/SEC games as we are hear this guy's comments and assume - incorrectly - that he must know what he's talking about because he works SEC games. And, this can possibly include voters in the polls.

As far as feeding the troll, I doubt GD gets on Tidefans much; so I doubt we are giving him additional fodder. Discussion pure and simple.
 

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I don't have a problem with what he said. I also don't understand why Alabama fans get so upset when an announcer or commentator says anything other than Alabama is the greatest team ever and will win every game by 30 points. I know if the roles were reversed I would not want a rematch. We all say college football is great because the regular season is the playoff. If that's the case LSU shouldn't have to play Alabama or Oregon twice. I get it. I understand why people don't want a rematch. But since I'm a Bama grad I will scream at the top of my lungs we derserve a rematch and make my hotel reservations.
 

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I don't have a problem with what he said. I also don't understand why Alabama fans get so upset when an announcer or commentator says anything other than Alabama is the greatest team ever and will win every game by 30 points. I know if the roles were reversed I would not want a rematch. We all say college football is great because the regular season is the playoff. If that's the case LSU shouldn't have to play Alabama or Oregon twice. I get it. I understand why people don't want a rematch. But since I'm a Bama grad I will scream at the top of my lungs we derserve a rematch and make my hotel reservations.
Gary is camaigning against Bama, when it is clear we are one of the 2 best and most deserving teams in the nation, and that is what the BCS is designed to give us.
 

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My thoughts (knowing everyone is seated on edge and I'm delusional):

1) Most fans on here in the past have had positive things to say on Danielson. I think he's pretty good. But again our sensitivities are up due to the bad years. He's not perfect, but he is entitled to his views.

2) The way to combat idiocy is to confront it. Somebody needs to tell Danielson that if he really believes that pregame agreement garbage then CBS needs to announce before the season that they will not televise any SEC title game that's a rematch.

3) Isn't Danielson pro playoff? Does he not realize that increases the odds of a rematch exponentially?
 

BAMAFAN61

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Can anyone remember if Danielson or anyone else campaigned against a barn-USCe rematch in the SECCG last year? It's anti-BAMA and anti-SEC bias, pure and simple.
 

jeremy

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I have no problem with anything he says in that video, and it boggles my mind how thin peoples skin can be when it comes to Alabama football.
I agree. He didnt say anything negative about Bama. His comments were very objective.
 

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Yes... CBS really has a bias towards the SEC after all that ad money the conference brings them.
Just calling it like I see it - and hear it.

I just thought about another example. I hear no one complaining about a rematch between Mich St and Wisconsin in the Big 10 Championship game. They're only complaining about a BAMA-LSU rematch. Why complain about our rematch and keep your mouth shut about the other one? Bias, pure and simple, regardless of the ad revenue.
 

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My problems with GD in regards to the national championship are this:
1) "If LSU beats GA, they deserve something - the AP title." Why? Because they'll be required to beat Alabama twice???? Total nonsense. You see teams have to do this in other NCAA sports all the time. The Patriots and Giants did the same thing just a couple of years ago in the Super Bowl. Teams go undefeated all the time, only to lose in the championship game. It's why they play the game.
2) He was quoted in USA Today a few days ago as saying that LSU and Bama should have agreed before their 11/5 game that the loser would bow out of the National Championship race --- which I guess means they should have just quit playing. This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

The guy is just running his mouth while using ZERO common sense (or else he has a serious bias towards Bama). Has nothing to do with my Bama skin.
The thing that gets me is if this was 1995 Bama and LSU would have the same exact records at 11-0-1 and would share the SEC West championship. Of course the higher ranked team by the voters would play in the SEC championship, but a rematch if the West team won the SEC championship game would be clamored for by everyone!

I hated ties back then but I hate the overtime even more especially now!
 
Just calling it like I see it - and hear it.

I just thought about another example. I hear no one complaining about a rematch between Mich St and Wisconsin in the Big 10 Championship game. They're only complaining about a BAMA-LSU rematch. Why complain about our rematch and keep your mouth shut about the other one? Bias, pure and simple, regardless of the ad revenue.
I call it like I see it too, and I think it's pretty ridiculous to think CBS is biased against the SEC. You are bringing up rematches in conference championships, which are all but meaningless at this point (SEC Championship game and defacto Big 12 Championship game, the Oklahoma/Oklahoma State match are the only ones that have importance). If it suits you, plenty of people are complaining about the farce that will be the PAC-12 Championship game.

If anything, CBS is miffed that they don't have the rights to Alabama/LSU in the National Championship. They have to watch two of their bell cow teams battle for the National Title on a rival network.
 
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There a difference. It's for all the marbles, and LSU has already beaten us once. I get that.

What Danielson and several of the ESPN guys keep saying is that they don't like the rematch. But what's the alternative? Oh yeah, there isn't one. All the competing narratives threw up on their shoes.


Just calling it like I see it - and hear it.

I just thought about another example. I hear no one complaining about a rematch between Mich St and Wisconsin in the Big 10 Championship game. They're only complaining about a BAMA-LSU rematch. Why complain about our rematch and keep your mouth shut about the other one? Bias, pure and simple, regardless of the ad revenue.
 

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