Have EVs Reached A Short-Term Peak?

I'm genuinely curious as to why there was a spate of negative articles regarding EVs - in particular sales volume - when the market was clearly growing significantly - really hitting critical mass (considered 5% of total sales).

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Another Quarter, Another Record: EV Sales in the U.S. Surpass 300,000 in Q3, as Tesla Share of EV Segment Tumbles to 50%

Electric vehicle (EV) sales volumes set another record in Q3, as total sales of battery-powered vehicles jumped past 300,000 for the first time in the U.S. market. Year-to-date EV sales through September reached just over 873,000, putting the market firmly on track to surpass 1 million for the first time ever. The milestone will likely be achieved in November.

Total EV sales in Q3, according to an estimate from Kelley Blue Book, hit 313,086, a 49.8% increase from the same period one year ago and an increase from the 298,039 sold in Q2. Most automakers posted sizeable gains over 2022, with Volvo, Nissan, Mercedes and Hyundai delivering increases above 200%, thanks mostly to new products entering the market. In Q3, 14 new EV models that did not exist one year ago were in the mix, including Chevrolet Blazer and Silverado EVs. (The new Chevy EVs had very low sales – just an initial few to mark a Q3 launch). The EV market is transforming, to be sure.

Electric vehicle sales accounted for 7.9% of total industry sales in Q3, a record and up from 6.1% a year ago and 7.2% in Q2. As Cox Automotive has been reporting, higher inventory levels, more product availability, and downward pricing pressure have helped spur continued linear growth of EV sales in the U.S. market. EV sales have now increased for 13 straight quarters.

EV transaction prices in Q3 were down significantly from 2022. In an attempt to increase sales volume, Tesla slashed prices, which are now down roughly 25% year over year. The price cuts have helped, as Tesla’s Q3 sales grew by 19.5% year over year, surpassing the industry’s overall growth rate of 16.3%. However, Tesla’s share of the EV segment continues to plunge, hitting 50% in Q3, the lowest level on record and down from 62% in Q1. The long-promised Cybertruck may reverse the downward trend, although competition from Ford, Rivian and Chevrolet will likely impact Tesla’s electric pickup volume potential.

The German luxury makes – Audi, BMW, and Mercedes – continue to rapidly increase sales of EV models. In Q3, BMW and Mercedes EV sales more than triple year-ago levels, while Audi posted an EV sales gain of 94%.

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I'm genuinely curious as to why there was a spate of negative articles regarding EVs - in particular sales volume - when the market was clearly growing significantly - really hitting critical mass (considered 5% of total sales).

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I get why dinosaur industry types would be so dead set against EVs and why those who back them politically and get something from it would also be.

What I don't understand is why the average Joe either gets so emotional about it or looks beyond reality to poo poo the technology.

Yes, it is a startup industry.

Yes, there are a number of challenges to adoption.

Bu taken as a whole, the technology is rapidly improving.

Reliability is improving and is almost on par this year with ICE vehicles.

Range is improving.

Charging capability is improving and that should get exponentially better over the next several years.

And no one is being forced to buy an EV, though that will change in 12 years or so - plenty of time for the industry to be ready.

Investments are being made in the grid to keep up with capacity. I see no reason why the grid won't be ready in time if that continues.

I'm not ready yet to buy a fully electric. Whether that changes in 3 years, 7 years, or 12 years - we'll have to wait and see.

For sure the grid doesn't concern me much. My goal is that within 5-10 years I won't need the grid much at all anyway. And I frankly think decentralization in power production (and storage) would help matters and should be part of the strategy.

Sorry for the ramble, but getting back to the original topic: It just seems like some (not all) people are making bad faith arguments against EVs. It also seems that they have quite the reach with others who are genuinely making good faith efforts. And that shows in this whole sales peak idea that is being pushed when the data so clearly indicate just the opposite of the narrative
 
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It’s worth noting that electric vehicles catch fire less frequently than gasoline-powered cars. Using data from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics and the National Transportation Safety Board, researchers at Auto Insurance EZ determined there were about 1,530 fires per 100,000 sales for gas vehicles and 25 per 100,000 for electric vehicles.

Hybrids, which combine both technologies, have the highest number of fires at 2,475 per 100,000 sales.
 
Interesting video. I would like to see the next step though. How the black mass is converted into Lithium......

Lithium is an element with an atomic mass of 3. Therefore, the lithium will be extracted from the black mass rather than the black mass being converted to lithium. I don't know how to extract lithium from the black mass, but there is probably information available on the web.
 

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It’s worth noting that electric vehicles catch fire less frequently than gasoline-powered cars. Using data from the Bureau of Transportation Statistics and the National Transportation Safety Board, researchers at Auto Insurance EZ determined there were about 1,530 fires per 100,000 sales for gas vehicles and 25 per 100,000 for electric vehicles.

Hybrids, which combine both technologies, have the highest number of fires at 2,475 per 100,000 sales.
Now that's scary!
 
My wife bought a hybrid RAV4 a couple of months ago and loves it. I will look into a hybrid when my current 4Runner gives up the ghost in a few years. Neither one of us will consider an EV anytime soon. We will wait for the recharging infrastructure to be in place, and even then I'm not adding hours to a road trip. So, the technology will have to improve. And, of course, the cost has to be sane.

Of note, there have been three house fires in our community the last couple of years. One was due to a Tesla. The second a golf cart. Not sure about the third. Could have been an EV. Could have been a lightning strike. Never got a clear answer on that.

So, I'll also want my next vehicle to not burn my house down.
 
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Give a lot of credit to the early adopters; without them, no technology would advance. It's extremely unlikely that the infrastructure for EVs will be in place in my lifetime, so I'm comfortable predicting I'll never own one. I'll also give some credit to the manufacturers out there who FINALLY stopped making all EVs ugly as hell. I'm convinced that one of the reasons there weren't more early adopters is because most people didn't want to be seen driving these abortions.
 
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Haven't really been paying attn to this thread. We have 2 paid off cars. Both are Acuras with under 100k miles. Plan on having those for a while, but I'd like to have one EV to to replace one of the 2. I'd still probably have one gas car in the rotation.

On the EV subject I think battery production is the problem. Lithium mining is apparently nasty for the environment and land in general. Everybody wants it, but not in their backyard.

You have discoveries like this, but it is on tribal land and they don't' want to mine it. Don't blame them. No developed country wants to mine it in their backyard.

Largest-Known Lithium Reserve Discovered Beneath Ancient Volcano In The US | IFLScience
 
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