Kyle Rittenhouse a hero? (update - not guilty on all charges)

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Then why did he not dismiss the charge initially when the defense filed a motion to do so?
The delay is not unusual at all. Look, if you don't want to take my word for it, the lawyers on CNN just explained why the charge wouldn't stick. I'm sure they'll explain it over and over, the way CNN does...
 
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Closing arguments done, the jury starts deliberations tomorrow:

"Deliberations in the Kyle Rittenhouse case will begin tomorrow. Rittenhouse, the armed Illinois teenager who killed two people and wounded another during unrest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, last summer, is on trial on homicide charges."
 

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Then why did the judge dismiss the initial attempt to have the charge dropped? Because at that point, he hadn’t accumulated an extreme dislike for the prosecuting attorney.
no attorney in his right mind would attempt a line of questioning the judge has forbidden; and I don’t know how often judges “open that door” or how often prosecutors try to go through it; but I’d bet anything, if a prosecutor gives that as a reason for doing it the judge doesn’t shout “I don’t believe you!”.
Judge is a whack job, and if you think he’s allowing this case to proceed fairly, you and I have different understandings of what that word means.
I think you're either extremely unfamiliar with trials in general or have watched too many television court procedural shows like Law and Order.
 
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It's okay. He was told "cold gun" before he picked it up..... 😗

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I saw that and shuddered. Thank God he didn't pull a Baldwin and try the trigger. Once, hunting, I was behind my father and went through a deadfall. When he turned around, my muzzle was pointing squarely at him. He just looked at me, turned, and proceeded on. I'd rather he'd said or done anything else on earth. The relationship to guns has changed so radically. When we came in from hunting, we'd lean our guns in the corner of the kitchen, where, before the day was done, we'd pull out the Hoppe's #9 and rods and clean them. Nothing was thought of it...
 
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It's okay. He was told "cold gun" before he picked it up..... 😗

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Holy smokes. I’ve taught my 10 year old better than this moron. I’m sure it’s for dramatic effect but it’s highly stupid no matter if it’s a cold gun or not. I cannot fathom doing this and I’ve been shooting since I was 5 years old. For once I’m speechless.
 

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Holy smokes. I’ve taught my 10 year old better than this moron. I’m sure it’s for dramatic effect but it’s highly stupid no matter if it’s a cold gun or not. I cannot fathom doing this and I’ve been shooting since I was 5 years old. For once I’m speechless.
When I saw that, I knew that no one, judge jury, bailiffs had any gun savvy at all. I would have yelled "Don't point that thing at me, you idiot!"...
 

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Man I hate it when defendants I don't like are afforded rights too.
Honestly this thread as of late is proving that the horseshoe theory is real. Justice is more of a line than a way of life for many. Too many people are just making up crap because they cant accept the legal process if it is not going their way.

As you can see early in the thread that when this happened I was mad as hell, and it still irks me that this kid is going to be the poster child for a bunch of deplorable people and groups. But if the prosecution cant prove homicide with the video and shots they have then the kid deserves to walk based on the rule of law. We may not like it, but we have to accept it.
 

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Interesting, apparently there are not jurors and alternate jurors, just jurors. Now the judge gets to pick which of the 18 will deliberate. Is this true?
 

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No it's done via raffle. 12 of the 18 will deliberate but those 12 are randomly selected from the pool.
Yup, I just found the process:

A pool of 150 prospective jurors was summoned to Kenosha County court Monday for the beginning of jury selection. Cafferty says the judge is responsible for narrowing that group down to 34 people.

“Once they get it down to 34, each side will get seven strikes and they'll bring it down to 20 which will be the group that will actually hear the case,” he explained.

Once the jury pool is down to 20, the trial will begin. Cafferty says eight of those jurors will not find out they are alternates until all of the evidence has been presented.

"I think this judge literally has this old-school bingo looking device and he'll put the numbers into the device, his clerk will spin it and she'll start to pick out numbers randomly, and she'll say ‘juror number 127, you're excused, juror number 112, you're excused,’ and they'll be left with twelve,” Cafferty explained.

IN-DEPTH: How jury selection works in Rittenhouse trial (tmj4.com)
 
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Honestly this thread as of late is proving that the horseshoe theory is real. Justice is more of a line than a way of life for many. Too many people are just making up crap because they cant accept the legal process if it is not going their way.

As you can see early in the thread that when this happened I was mad as hell, and it still irks me that this kid is going to be the poster child for a bunch of deplorable people and groups. But if the prosecution cant prove homicide with the video and shots they have then the kid deserves to walk based on the rule of law. We may not like it, but we have to accept it.

Very well said, and very true. I sat on a civil medical malpractice trial several years ago that I honestly felt sorry for the plaintiff and what ultimately ended up happening to him. Many of us on the jury FELT he and his family deserved a lot more but there had to be proof of a certain degree of negligence that the evidence simply did not provide. Was there negligence? Yes, but there were degrees of negligence we had to get to in order to check the boxes on the long list of "charges" we had in front of us as a jury. So I FULLY get what you're saying.
 
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