Obama's "Special Olympics" Comment on Jay Leno

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I'm not understanding the big deal. He claims he bowled a 129 and likened it to a Special Olympics score.

Special Olympics is a wonderful thing, and this does not diminish that in any way. Heck, he could have said "I had a retard game" and it wouldn't have bothered me. And it will be interesting to see the double standard come into play as Obama receives practically no criticism from the Kool Aid drinkers, yet had a Conservative made such a comment it would have been trumped up as a symptom of a heartless mindset out of touch with special needs people. In all actuality, it sounds like something Ann Coulter would say.
You know good and well he was saying, "I had a retard game" and not simply "likening" his bowling to the special olympics, whatever that means. If I started talking about how I "worked like a n-word" or "ran like I was from Kenya," everyone would be up in arms and rightly so. And yes, it is the same thing. He should not have said it.

For me personally, I couldn't care less. Would someone show me a Special Olympian who's bowled a 300?
[ame="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=obama+bowl+300&btnG=Search"]How about several?[/ame]
 

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You know good and well he was saying, "I had a retard game" and not simply "likening" his bowling to the special olympics, whatever that means. If I started talking about how I "worked like a n-word" or "ran like I was from Kenya," everyone would be up in arms and rightly so. And yes, it is the same thing. He should not have said it.
I think that he was actually mocking the audience more than anything else. The way that they ooohed and ahhed at his paltry score of 129.* While they have that "everyone's a winner" attitude at the Special Olympics (and rightfully so), Obama was saying that he didn't deserve that.

*CrimsonChuck would be very lucky to bowl a 129.
 

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I think the bigger issue here is why are some people afforded to make mistakes, such as saying something that was taken the wrong way and some aren't? This is no different than umpteen other public figures in the past saying something that one somebody in this huge world took wrong and they were made to publicly apologize, forced to resign or got some type of public "slap on the wrist".

I heard the comment and as I've said before a lot less pervasive material has been crucified in the past. For some reason with O-Bama instead of jumping to conclusions, rushing to judgment we gave him the benefit of the doubt. I bet many before him that was in like situations wished that leeway were given to them.
 

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I think that he was actually mocking the audience more than anything else. The way that they ooohed and ahhed at his paltry score of 129.* While they have that "everyone's a winner" attitude at the Special Olympics (and rightfully so), Obama was saying that he didn't deserve that.

*CrimsonChuck would be very lucky to bowl a 129.
Did you seriously just type this? Surely this is sarcasm. We know what he was saying. There can't really be any dispute regarding his intent. Whether or not we thing it was a big deal is debatable, but that he was making fun of the Special Olympics and its athletes' lack of ability is not debatable at all.

Remember when Trent Lott told Strom Thurmond, on his birthday, that had he been elected, a lot would be different today? He had to resign because he was accused of being racist from that comment alone.
 
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Did you seriously just type this? Surely this is sarcasm. We know what he was saying. There can't really be any dispute regarding his intent. Whether or not we thing it was a big deal is debatable, but that he was making fun of the Special Olympics and its athletes' lack of ability is not debatable at all.

Remember when Trent Lott told Strom Thurmond, on his birthday, that had he been elected, a lot would be different today? He had to resign because he was accused of being racist from that comment alone.
My point exactly...
 

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Did you seriously just type this? Surely this is sarcasm. We know what he was saying. There can't really be any dispute regarding his intent. Whether or not we thing it was a big deal is debatable, but that he was making fun of the Special Olympics and its athletes' lack of ability is not debatable at all.
It is actually highly debatable. Watch the clip again.

Remember when Trent Lott told Strom Thurmond, on his birthday, that had he been elected, a lot would be different today? He had to resign because he was accused of being racist from that comment alone.
These aren't very comparable at all. Obama was making a JOKE (maybe a bad one but still a joke), and Lott was being serious. Lott's words...
When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over the years, either.
Strom Thurmond ran for president on the racist platform to continue segregation.
 

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It is actually highly debatable. Watch the clip again.



These aren't very comparable at all. Obama was making a JOKE (maybe a bad one but still a joke), and Lott was being serious. Lott's words...

Strom Thurmond ran for president on the racist platform to continue segregation.
So whether he was "joking" or not really makes a difference? If Lott were "joking" I'm sure no one would of said a word. I've got some igloos in Arizona I'll sell you...

When it comes to certain topics whether someone is "joking" or not makes absolutely no difference. We need to be consistent in our media on issues like this. Or do we need to admit that saying something (that could be taken the wrong way) about african americans is more serious than saying something off color about handicapped kids? I think that is the issue many are dancing around in this thread. "Joking" or not comparing his bowling game to the special olympics was not bragging about his game I can guarantee you that and it wasn't a "compliment" to the special olympics.
 

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It is actually highly debatable. Watch the clip again.



These aren't very comparable at all. Obama was making a JOKE (maybe a bad one but still a joke), and Lott was being serious. Lott's words...

Strom Thurmond ran for president on the racist platform to continue segregation.
That was not the only part of his agenda. His economic policy could very well have saved us a lot of heartache. And today, we celebrate Booker T. Washington, who also desired to continue segregation.

The point is, Barack was making fun of the Special Olympics. You can't deny it. It's one thing when Andrew Dice Clay does it; it's another when the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES does.
 

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just don't get yerself mixed up with none of them sand mountain mackies. i heard they like to handle snakes ;)
Mocking religious beliefs? Religious beliefs that are held by a sect of white, Appalachian Americans. Why do you disparage the descendants of the people that gave this country many of its' leaders during its' formative years? I guess that it is OK to disparage poor, uneducated, white people of Scot-Irish descent.
 
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The point is, Barack was making fun of the Special Olympics.
actually barack was making fun of himself, not the special olympics. sometimes that knee jerk reflex disables the ability to think rationally.

how about this. if i was playing football and every ball i threw was a duck that landed halfway to my friend and i said, "good god im throwing like a girl." I wouldnt be making fun of girls by that statement, i would be making fun of myself. this is a form of comedy that has been well established through the annals of time. it is why huge dudes are nicknamed "Tiny" It is funny to describe someone with characteristics that they dont normally exhibit. It is why when I get tongue twisted i claim ESL.

The only reason what obama said is offensive is bc this country has become a hypersensitive bunch of pansies that tremble with fear at the mere thought of offending anyone over a joke.
 

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actually barack was making fun of himself, not the special olympics. sometimes that knee jerk reflex disables the ability to think rationally.

how about this. if i was playing football and every ball i through was a duck that landed halfway to my friedn and i said, "good god im throwing like a girl." I wouldnt be making fun of girls by that statement, i would be making fun of myself. this is a form of comedy that has been well established through the annals of time. it is why huge dudes are nicknamed "Tiny" It is funny to describe someone with characteristics that they dont normally exhibit. It is why when I get tongue twisted i claim ESL.

The only reason what obama said is offensive is bc this country has become a hypersensitive bunch of pansies that tremble with fear at the mere thought of offending anyone over a joke.

BINGO!!! That is why this situation is so hypocritical. Because the recent past shows us that we don't tolerate "making fun" or "taking light" of groups of people or certain events (look no further than the Nick Saban "catastrophe" comment). The motive of the person saying it is NEVER even considered....except for this time. That's what bothers me. Let's hold the same measuring stick out. If we're going to be over reactive, kneejerking type of people then by god be that way. But don't pick and choose who we do it to. We've humiliated a lot of people taking this approach. O-Bama should have been exposed to the same types of treatment other people have been subjected to under similar circumstances.

But I do agree with you. We've become hypersensitive. Just funny this time the media wasn't....
 

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actually barack was making fun of himself, not the special olympics.
Yes, he was.

But, he was attempting to be funny by saying that he was so bad and/or goofy that it looked like the Special Olympics.

Sort of like, "Hey, I looked retarded."

Not the worst thing in the world, but to claim that is isn't an insult to the mentally/physically handicapped is ridiculous.
 

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actually barack was making fun of himself, not the special olympics. sometimes that knee jerk reflex disables the ability to think rationally.

how about this. if i was playing football and every ball i threw was a duck that landed halfway to my friend and i said, "good god im throwing like a girl." I wouldnt be making fun of girls by that statement, i would be making fun of myself. this is a form of comedy that has been well established through the annals of time. it is why huge dudes are nicknamed "Tiny" It is funny to describe someone with characteristics that they dont normally exhibit. It is why when I get tongue twisted i claim ESL.

The only reason what obama said is offensive is bc this country has become a hypersensitive bunch of pansies that tremble with fear at the mere thought of offending anyone over a joke.
In that scenario you would say, "I'm throwing like a girl," because in the context, throwing like a girl is a bad thing. It doesn't just imply--it flat out states--that since your passing sucks, and you are passing like a girl, that girls' passing sucks, too. It's an easy logical path to follow. I can draw it up in the form of an equation, but I don't think it's necessary.

I agree with you regarding the hypersensitive nature of the country with regards to political correctness. In this instance, though, the implication was clearly that special olympics bowling isn't good. Not only is that not true, but I can understand how it is offensive. If he had said, "I looked like Stephen Hawking out there," at least it would have been a good comparison.
 

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