OC and DC replacement discussion

[JustNeedMe81]

I don't see how you hire a guy with a reputation for hitting players, fair or otherwise. It has to impact recruiting in a negative way and there are too many other top offensive minds that would be happy to work for the GOAT.

I'm going to say.. When it comes to coaches' past.. It doesn't matter as long you can recuit and develop players....

Bama hired Sark... Kiffin... IJS... so we're not in position to say " i don't understand why we would consider hiring Lake with his reptuation....." It doesn't matter.... It doesn't affect the recruiting... players don't care. IF Chris Beard wwants to come work for Nat Oats... Oh, they would be so quick to hire him on the spot.... if he bring something positive to the coaching and players.

 

[DrJJoyner]

Agreed. Lake is not a candidate IMO. FYI, his background is DC.

Thanks. Fixed!

I barely knew he existed before he emerged on these lists, TBH, even though he's been coaching for 20+ years.

 

[Tidelines]

I don't see how you hire a guy with a reputation for hitting players, fair or otherwise. It has to impact recruiting in a negative way and there are too many other top defensive minds that would be happy to work for the GOAT.

I got slapped up side the helmet, cussed at, excessive running, just name a few. I took it as constructive criticism and part of the game. I tell my grandson all the time, you just have to be tougher than what is going on around you. It never bothered me in the least. Everybody got treated the same.

 

[westide]

God forbid! We cannot have coaches slapping players... except if your QB is named AJ and he throws into double and triple coverage.

 

[jthomas666]

God forbid! We cannot have coaches slapping players... except if your QB is named AJ and he throws into double and triple coverage.

I remember a Tenn game when they had the ball on our goal line. QB (Guarantano) tried to play hero and dive over the top. Fumbled into the arms of Trevon Diggs, who ran it back 100yds for a TD.

Alabama's Diggs recovers fumble for 100-yard score

Alabama's Trevon Diggs picks up Jarrett Guarantano's fumble on the goal line and returns it 100 yards for a scoop-and-score in the fourth quarter.

www.secsports.com

Pruitt yanked the guy's facemask coming off the field, and ESPN tried to make a big deal about it. I'd have had the kid running stadium steps then and there. In full pads.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

I also grew up with a 'Physical' style of teaching but I think people need to start getting used to the fact that kids born after 2000 or so haven't.

Things are different now and players in general don't respond well to getting physically knocked around by their Coaches.

Good, Bad, or Indifferent that's how it is and that type of coaching is never really going to be allowed to come back.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

I also grew up with a 'Physical' style of teaching but I think people need to start getting used to the fact that kids born after 2000 or so haven't.

Things are different now and players in general don't respond well to getting physically knocked around by their Coaches.

Good, Bad, or Indifferent that's how it is and that type of coaching is never really going to be allowed to come back.

Some of these kids nowadays would have had a stroke had they been coached by the guy I had in high school.............it was like being in a Roman gladiator exhibition. He was brutal, but at the time they could get away with it

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I remember a Tenn game when they had the ball on our goal line. QB (Guarantano) tried to play hero and dive over the top. Fumbled into the arms of Trevon Diggs, who ran it back 100yds for a TD.

Alabama's Diggs recovers fumble for 100-yard score

Alabama's Trevon Diggs picks up Jarrett Guarantano's fumble on the goal line and returns it 100 yards for a scoop-and-score in the fourth quarter.

www.secsports.com

Pruitt yanked the guy's facemask coming off the field, and ESPN tried to make a big deal about it. I'd have had the kid running stadium steps then and there. In full pads.

IIRC, the Tennessee QB was trying to be "Cam"and run his own play and not the one that was called...

 

[DrJJoyner]

I also grew up with a 'Physical' style of teaching but I think people need to start getting used to the fact that kids born after 2000 or so haven't.

Things are different now and players in general don't respond well to getting physically knocked around by their Coaches.

Good, Bad, or Indifferent that's how it is and that type of coaching is never really going to be allowed to come back.

Heck, even the Army started cutting back on physical hazing---and even profanity-laced rants---in basic training way back in the early 1980s. It's really a lazy way to lead and to motivate.

 

[Tidelines]

I also grew up with a 'Physical' style of teaching but I think people need to start getting used to the fact that kids born after 2000 or so haven't.

Things are different now and players in general don't respond well to getting physically knocked around by their Coaches.

Good, Bad, or Indifferent that's how it is and that type of coaching is never really going to be allowed to come back.

My coaches were not brutal just tough as nails and expected their players to be tough. It has served as a platform for life for me. A lot of lessons that would not of been learned anywhere else. The biggest one is confidence in yourself to handle what comes your way.

 

[CB4]

Minnesota Vikings may be entering the Jim Leonhard sweepstakes.

Who Replaces Ed Donatell? 15 Candidates to Be the Vikings' Next Defensive Coordinator | Sports Illustrated Minnesota Vikings News, Analysis and More

 

[uafan4life]

...Can't think of any reason to wait if it were Leonard or Pruitt...

I've heard that the fastest way to get all your Is dotted and Ts crossed is to involve a bunch of lawyers...

 

[CB4]

I've heard that the fastest way to get all your Is dotted and Ts crossed is to involve a bunch of lawyers...

Isn’t that the truth. Sent a pretty straight forward service agreement to a customer in October. They forwarded to “legal”. Legal then sent it back “red lined to hell and back” with an attached addendum and exhibit…. on Monday. Four months…

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

I don't see how you hire a guy with a reputation for hitting players, fair or otherwise. It has to impact recruiting in a negative way and there are too many other top defensive minds that would be happy to work for the GOAT.

I watched the video of lakes “abuse”..let’s just real here he swatted a player with a helmet on. He probably hurt his hand worse than he hurt the player. He was breaking up a fight. People acting like he was choking out or starving a player.

 

[DrJJoyner]

I watched the video of lakes “abuse”..let’s just real here he swatted a player with a helmet on. He probably hurt his hand worse than he hurt the player. He was breaking up a fight. People acting like he was choking out or starving a player.

Yes, I tracked down the video and agree. It was brief and intentional. It’s bizarre to me that, if nothing else happened, he was suspended, much less fired, for that. Either there’s context we’re missing or the incident was a pretext for getting rid of a coach they didn’t want. That they paid his full salary rather than trying to claw it back by firing him for cause leads me to think it’s the latter.

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

Yes, I tracked down the video and agree. It was brief and intentional. It’s bizarre to me that, if nothing else happened, he was suspended, much less fired, for that. Either there’s context we’re missing or the incident was a pretext for getting rid of a coach they didn’t want. That they paid his full salary rather than trying to claw it back by firing him for cause leads me to think it’s the latter.

yeah and I am wondering if he there wasn’t something previous that happened. But right now this is all I got to go on. I am not even saying he shouldn’t have been reprimanded like “hey that’s a bad look” But to me it’s a little weird that shrines are still built of woody Hayes’s who throat punched a dude and force to keep A player from fighting another player is a fireable offense.

 

[BearFoot]

Yes, I tracked down the video and agree. It was brief and intentional. It’s bizarre to me that, if nothing else happened, he was suspended, much less fired, for that. Either there’s context we’re missing or the incident was a pretext for getting rid of a coach they didn’t want. That they paid his full salary rather than trying to claw it back by firing him for cause leads me to think it’s the latter.

This happened at UW in Seattle Washington. Look at it through the “cultural optics” of that area and it may become a little more clear to some…and maybe not to others.

 

[STONECOLDSABAN]

This happened at UW in Seattle Washington. Look at it through the “cultural optics” of that area and it may become a little more clear to some…and maybe not to others.

Yeah I remember when there was a meltdown about people in that area having to pump their own gas. ……*awkward cough*

 

[SkullDuckery]

Yea, pretty sure that is called prostitution but both are pretty slimy.

I think that would make Freeze a pimp.

 

[SkullDuckery]

I got slapped up side the helmet, cussed at, excessive running, just name a few. I took it as constructive criticism and part of the game. I tell my grandson all the time, you just have to be tougher than what is going on around you. It never bothered me in the least. Everybody got treated the same.

Nothing like getting dragged around the field by the face mask to drive a point home.