Not at all - intel is Ray's starting a new "non-profit" ( a -$32M C) for their IRS records) called The Harbert Deconstruction Company to absorb any losses from the Malzoo-n travesty.
Plain Trouble on "Da Plains" (all AU posts here)
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Again, all All Bran's gotta do is give him a sendoff to Texas Tech by compensating his first two years on the job out there. Bet CFB analysts would chip in some of the dough for his salary in Lubbock for the privilege of seeing whether his rinky-dink Rube Goldberg offense works as well as any other offense in a poor defenseless conference...
We'll know the full effect if we start hearing players transferring in the next few weeks.
I'm not sure.
Gus is the most overrated coach in the country IMO.
Give him a QB he didn't recruit or develop that transfers from another school and on the years it times up with a veteran OL and good running back he'll win 10 games.
Other years, he's good for 7 or 8.
He hit the jackpot the year he got the miracle at JH and the kick six in on back to back games. His reputation is built off of tricks and luck.
Auburn wouldn't be anything without the power brokers (you know who I'm referring to) buying athletes to play in that isolated, depressing town. Gus simply calls plays. The PTB get player$. If not for the paying of players and an opportunity to play against Alabama every year that program would resemble Troy or Georgia Southern. The Iron Bowl is all they have to hang their hat on.
You're talking about Auburn's program and I'm talking about Gus as an overated coach.
As much as I don't like 'em, they are an upper tier SEC program over time. Not in our category, of course, but not a Vandy either. They typically need two things for success: a decent coach and Bama being "down."
Older folks than me can be more precise, but I think of three times this was true:
1. Late 50's with Ears and Shug.
2. 80's after CPB and Dye.
3. Early 2000s with Wingnut and Shula.
Their NC in 2010 is an outlyer.
They're a strange program. Very good at times but also wildly inconsistent the last decade. Like you said, most of their good times are when Alabama is down. Ironically, their record against Vandy is shockingly close all time and haven't beaten LSU in Baton Rouge since 1999. Haven't beaten Georgia in Athens since 2005 and Alabama in Tuscaloosa since 2010. The 2010 and 2013 seasons were flukish. 2017 was a great team but in the end they ended up losing four games.
I'm sitting here giggling like a little girl thinking that Auburn's "$49 million coach" has basically been placed on the "college football discount rack" by the very folks that overpaid for him in the first place. Literally begging someone to "make us an offer we can't refuse".
How sweet it is!
How sweet it is!
Well, in 2010 they bought the best player in college football whose skill set lined up perfectly for what was a new and novel offense at the time. Now defenses have retooled to stop that kind of football. Subtract a good RB and a QB that can tuck & run...well, it's bad.
2013 was, I believe, a combination of Chizik's good recruiting, Malzahn's offense being new-again in the SEC, and more Auburn dumb luck. They beat their cupcakes soundly, won close games against Ole Miss and an A&M team that was trying to figure out life without Johnny Football, Butch Jones was in his first year at UTK and they went 5-7, more close wins of Arky, Georgia, and Mizzou. Don't forget the Kick 6 to beat us. Somehow, they only lost of a Jameis Winston FSU team by 3 points. Maybe they were good? Maybe just more Auburn dumb luck.
So basically this is the school telling Gus we can't find anyone better than you that wants to be the coach right now. But when we do you are fired. Not sure who is dumber right now the school or Gus.
When it comes to negotiations between the barn and Sexton; there can be no doubt who is the player and who is the payer. Sexton proved that last year
Exactly. I don't see how all this is any good for recruiting. Alabama should be able to flip some of them at this point.
If they have someone we value more than the ones still on our radar.
There was talk the big wide out from Hoover might be a flip, but then apparently there's a problem with his grades. Anybody in this class we want more than they ones we are recruiting right now?
That was my only post on the subject not my second.
Well, the post to which you responded said, "that a former Alabama player". There was no reference to asst coaches. Anyway it's no big deal.
On another note: there are varying accounts as to whether Coach Bryant really wanted Dye to replace him. Stallings may have been the one, there may have been others.
Auburn defines itself in terms of other programs...Georgia (10-20%), and us (80-90%).
Other than yammering on incessantly about family, they don't really have an identity, and haven't since Pay Dye.
On top of which, that "family" says all the right stuff, but internecine actions look far more like a Mafia family. As Saban says, "What you do is so loud, I can't hear what you say." Ask Doug Barfield, Terry Bowden, Tommy Tuberville, and an endless string of assistants who all have dug knives out of their own backs.
When he doesn't have a Heisman QB transfer, and doesn't get stupid lucky, Gus Malzahn is a 7-5 / 9-3 coach. He hasn't developed a single quarterback that he recruited out of high school. He's a terrible recognizer of talent, a worse developer, and has no sense of when to keep his mouth shut.
If he hadn't gotten lottery-winning lucky in consecutive games against their standard-setting rivals in 2013, he would have been fired long ago.
So it all comes back to defining themselves in terms of others.
Until that changes -- and I don't see it happening any time soon -- they'll always be what they are now. A wildly inconsistent 6-6 to 9-3 program, with the occasional outlying season both ways, forever chasing their tails rather than trying to move in the right direction.
Other than yammering on incessantly about family, they don't really have an identity, and haven't since Pay Dye.
On top of which, that "family" says all the right stuff, but internecine actions look far more like a Mafia family. As Saban says, "What you do is so loud, I can't hear what you say." Ask Doug Barfield, Terry Bowden, Tommy Tuberville, and an endless string of assistants who all have dug knives out of their own backs.
When he doesn't have a Heisman QB transfer, and doesn't get stupid lucky, Gus Malzahn is a 7-5 / 9-3 coach. He hasn't developed a single quarterback that he recruited out of high school. He's a terrible recognizer of talent, a worse developer, and has no sense of when to keep his mouth shut.
If he hadn't gotten lottery-winning lucky in consecutive games against their standard-setting rivals in 2013, he would have been fired long ago.
So it all comes back to defining themselves in terms of others.
Until that changes -- and I don't see it happening any time soon -- they'll always be what they are now. A wildly inconsistent 6-6 to 9-3 program, with the occasional outlying season both ways, forever chasing their tails rather than trying to move in the right direction.
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I was referring to it being the second time I said I knew that Dye played at Georgia. I guess I missed the part about former players, but I thought it was about coaches who went from Bama to the Barn. Anyway, no big deal.
I'm sure there is debate about who CBP thought would be a good replacement. I've heard both Bebes and Dye, but in the age of news crawling vs. today it flying there was probably lots of opinions but none were known real well. FWIW, the Ray Perkins hire never seemed right to me, even though I was just a teen. Of course, the Bill Curry hire didn't feel right either.
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