We have a 3* committed for next year. Projected as the #1 kicker in the class. He very well could go on your list. Foster just doesn't strike the ball well consistently.
Sadly we were outcoached again...
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We have a 3* committed for next year. Projected as the #1 kicker in the class. He very well could go on your list. Foster just doesn't strike the ball well consistently.
In summary, Saban was not outcoached. At times, some our players were outplayed, and at times some of LSU's players were outplayed.
3 missed field goals, no matter the distance, were still makeable field goals. Saban cannot make those for him.
At least 5 dropped passes. Saban can't catch those.
Bama was the better team in this game. Unfortunately, as much as you hate to say it, and if you are looking for someone to pin the blame on, call Foster out.
He missed 3 of them. Punting can be argued in those situations, but my goodness.
McCarron also made some poor decisions that cost us dearly.
3 missed field goals, no matter the distance, were still makeable field goals. Saban cannot make those for him.
At least 5 dropped passes. Saban can't catch those.
Bama was the better team in this game. Unfortunately, as much as you hate to say it, and if you are looking for someone to pin the blame on, call Foster out.
He missed 3 of them. Punting can be argued in those situations, but my goodness.
McCarron also made some poor decisions that cost us dearly.
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Exactly, I think it was an overall team blunder. Missed field goals, dropped passes, stupid penalties, Im not sure it was coaching. Then as well as our defense played, we goofed on one play that gave them almost a td and resulted in three points and didn't play the options well at all except one play. Just disappointed!
I believe it's a fact that the Tee in HS had a lot to do with many having problems in college. I think they can still use a tee, but don't have to?
You can blame the coaches all day long, but missing four field goals was the the reason for the defeat. 40-47 yard FG's should be 50+% for FG kickers on championship caliber teams. NFL guys are about 75% on that distance.
I never want to have two FG kickers again, if that's possible. It created a situation where the kicker with the most difficult task got the least amount of game time work this season. 3 attempts going into the 8th game is a hidden disaster waiting to happen......and it happened, and cost us the game.
A 60 foot put is makeable also, but they are seldom made. Those FGs might be makeable, but if your kickers aren't making them consistently they might as well be 80 yards. I don't put this on the kickers at all, the coaches should never have repeatedly asked them to make kicks outside their range.
It's all about the range of the kicker. Maybe those are easy NFL kicks, but we don't have an NFL kicker. You can't ask a kicker to kick something outside their range and expect them to make it. Also, who's responsible for recruiting and developing kickers? That would be the coaching staff.
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If AJ hits Norwood instead of the fade to Hanks, we're having a different conversation this morning.
Something else to consider - let's say we get the lead on the TD or a couple of FGs. Then we no longer have conservative Les. Instead, we have crazy Les. Is that really better?
Something else to consider - let's say we get the lead on the TD or a couple of FGs. Then we no longer have conservative Les. Instead, we have crazy Les. Is that really better?
I agree, but it's still on the coaching staff. Your statement that a championship caliber team should have a kicker that can make those 40-47 yard FGs 50% of the time is true. The coaching staff is responsible for recruiting and developing that position. We have not put the emphasis on ST that is needed and that is squarely on shoulders of the coaching staff.
And in a post about four or so up I said the same thing but it's not game time coaching as this thread is suggesting.
I respectfully disagree. Foster was considered the best kicker in the country. He just has been extremely inconsistent and one of those guys that hasn't panned out. He has made from that range and made from 46 in this game. He development has been.... well you saw it, but kickers get the shanks just like golfers.
^^^^THIS^^^^^
While I blame coaching for the loss, you are correct we did not execute either, but the coaches have to put the players in the best plays possible, you have to get creative, I agree, but put the ball in the playmakes hands with screens, let them make the YAC that we have seen. This is why I am so angry, we made several plays of 10 yds or more with these, just went away from them, people have blamed AJ, if he had been able to throw some safer short passes, maybe he would have had a better passing game, who knows, just know we should have won this one, we gave it away in my opinion, LSwho is good, but we are the better team. JMHO
Wouldn't it be nice if it was an injury that you could see in advance? Bama's regular FG kicker will be out with a case of the shanks for tonight's game
do some people realize that a reply to a thread doesn't have to be 100% in compliance with the original post? i think our coaching staff made dumb decisions, which is not the same thing as being outcoached. am i supposed to start a special thread differentiating the two concepts. and for all this "i'm sick of the armchairing second guessing", that's not really an appropriate response to those of us who were saying "punt the ball" from their 34...those of us who were saying "preserve field position for three points" when we had it at their 28 late in the game. to all the "you'd be singing a different tune" about the wildcat pass...no, i wouldn't, because the play never should have been called, and i was saying as much when i was talking to my buddy on the phone right before that dumb play was called. no, miles did nothing to "outcoach" saban...but saban and staff made enough bone-headed decisions to lose the game. all the staunch defenders like to talk about the coach putting the players in a position to succeed, how about putting them in a position to fail? that does happen, you know? putting your short range kicker on the field to kick a 50 yarder is putting him in a position to fail. calling slow-developing reverses that can likely result in drive killing losses in putting your players in a position to fail. sometimes play calling has to be made based on only on the potential reward, but on the potential risk involved. i think saban's a great coach...i just don't think he was last night. and i stand by that. and yes, too many men on the field in overtime is the coaching staff's fault. maze never should have been on the field to botch the punt and he never should have been put in the position to throw that pick. sometimes coaching decisions put the players in a position not to execute as well as they should. as one of the perennial sunshine pumpers put it, that's life...get over it...or something to that effect.
it's so bizarre that to some saban is so sacred that he's beyond criticism, whereas it's completely acceptable (and apparently the only explanation for some) to say it's all the fault of a bunch of 18-21 year old kids. is it just possible that the coaches had some hand in the loss, or are they only responsible for the wins?
Special team decisions is the only thing that he outcoached Coach Saban on, the offensive playcalling also is suspect to me. Yes, players have to execute, but when you try to be too cute in playcalling, it will get you beat, and tonight we got beat by an inferior team and inferior coach. I would not trade our coaches for anyone, just am disappointed in the play selection, we are a lot better than we played last night, as much as I hate giving LSwho credit, I would rather question whether our playcalling cost us the game.
I think CNS decided to kick FG's because he had faith in the kickers and if they were missed he had faith in the defense. We lose one game this year and it's whine time. Never witnessed so many couch coaches.
I mean no disrespect, but just out of curiousity of the people that are saying we were out coached or we should have punted instead of kicking FGs, what is your coaching resume and record? I will admit I have never coached football, but I think I know more about coaching football than I really do.
I'm sure you do not want me as the head coach and I am certain I don't want some of you as head coach either.
I'm sure you do not want me as the head coach and I am certain I don't want some of you as head coach either.
how is it whining to say the coaches didn't have a very good game? are the people who say aj should have hit such and such or that foster should have done such and such whining? we lost a game we should have won, due to both player errors and coaching errors. is there something wrong with saying that? or are we only supposed to post cheerleading posts. i don't see anyone saying saban stinks, that he should be fired. or whatever. they're saying he botched some things pretty badly. how is that whining?
i guess one needs to be a professional chef to say the soup is too salty too, huh?
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