Why I love college football but don't care for basketball

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Baseball was my first love of sports. Football and basketball came later.

Like @Bamabuzzard the NBA lost me. 25 years sounds about right.
Honestly I quit watching the nba after the spurs dynasty Ended. I think since then I have watched more college women’s basketball games than I have nba games…. Which is 1 and it was last night.

NBA is just a player follower sport. No one really cares about teams anymore.
 
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Honestly I quit watching the nba after the spurs dynasty Ended. I think since then I have watched more college women’s basketball games than I have nba games…. Which is 1 and it was last night.

NBA is just a player follower sport. No one really cares about teams anymore.
I can beat that...I got hooked on the NBA during the 80's watching the Laker's (my team) and Celtics (couldn't stand them - mainly because I didn't like Danny Ainge and Kevin McCale). Ironically now I'd probably be a Celtics fan if the 80's were today. I faithfully watched the NBA thru the Jordan dynasty years and watched the Coby LA dynasty some and then I quit. Haven't watched an entire NBA game in years!

BTW, you've watched 1 more entire women's college game than I've ever watched. I'm still amazed there's a female professional league.
 
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BTW, you've watched 1 more entire women's college game than I've ever watched. I'm still amazed there's a female professional league.
It was more to see Clark win and Dawn lose. I wasn’t watching because I was thoroughly invested in the skill or competitiveness of the game.

Between Tony Vitello and Dawn Staley… I don’t know what SEC coach I hate the most out of all SEC sports.
 

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It was more to see Clark win and Dawn lose. I wasn’t watching because I was thoroughly invested in the skill or competitiveness of the game.

Between Tony Vitello and Dawn Staley… I don’t know what SEC coach I hate the most out of all SEC sports.
Before watching the USCW vs IOWA game, I thought Clark would not look like an NCAA MVP against USCW. However, I was really impressed with Clarks’ long range shooting, her passing, her driving past good defenders, etc. Someone got it right when selecting her as the NCAA W MVP, I think. We will know for sure today if LSWho can’t stop her. I’m not a LSWho fan, but I’m picking them to beat Iowa.
 

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I can beat that...I got hooked on the NBA during the 80's watching the Laker's (my team) and Celtics (couldn't stand them - mainly because I didn't like Danny Ainge and Kevin McCale). Ironically now I'd probably be a Celtics fan if the 80's were today. I faithfully watched the NBA thru the Jordan dynasty years and watched the Coby LA dynasty some and then I quit. Haven't watched an entire NBA game in years!

BTW, you've watched 1 more entire women's college game than I've ever watched. I'm still amazed there's a female professional league.
I think that if you had watched Clark play against USCW, you would have been impressed.

I think I stopped watching the NBA after Michael Jordan retired.
 

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I would like to see the women’s March Madness winner play the men’s winner, I.e. UCONN.

I honestly believe UCONN could beat the women’s winner 200+ to less than 10. Hmmmm, that is not meant to be a sexist statement, but reality. I’m not sure the women could get the ball across mid court without a 10 second infraction if the men played a pressure defense. Just saying.
 

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To me, though, that's the problem with the way college basketball picks it champion.

In football, the clearly better team will likely win 9 of 10 if not 10 of 10 games.
People on this very board were complaining about TCU making the playoff, too.


That, and the fact that the game is so physically demanding, makes a single-elimination playoff viable. In college, by contrast, the clearly better team will maybe win 7 of 10 because sometimes shots just don't go in or the best player gets into foul trouble. So, a single-elimination tournament makes no sense. Let alone one in which there's no re-seeding.
What causes this in COLLEGE BASKETBALL that is unique to all other sports is the "one and done" concept. UCLA won, what, seven straight championships? Does that happen if Alcindor or Walton can go pro after one year?

What happens in b-ball is you wind up with a TEAM of guys who have played together for 3 years playing a Blue Blood or high level team that consists of 3 guys heading to the NBA (one after one year) and a couple of borderline cases who MIGHT make it if they improve. Those players know almost telepathically where one another are when they play together a lot. Meanwhile, Duke or Kentucky with their one superstar and "our role is to get the ball to him" team run into trouble.


For example, I'm old enough to have rooted for the Phi Slamma Jamma Houston teams with Akeem Olajuwon and Clycle Drexler. They were far and away the best teams year in and year out but always got tripped up along the way.
Yeah, but they probably win in 1983 if there's a shot clock, too, so that's not the most compelling argument. Georgetown was better the next year.

I've long said that the NCAA tournament is the most exciting and dumbest championship in all of sports. By contrast, the NBA (and similarly-constructed NHL) playoffs are the least exciting and most logical.
I'd venture to say that there's some truth to that.

College b-ball sort of "discovered" March Madness in a way.

My experience with it is a little different, but I'm not willing to go out on a limb whether I'm "right" or "wrong," either.

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I lived in Illinois back when DePaul was a national power, which is (to be frank) why I hated them so much. There used to be a guy named Ray Rayner who had this morning show on WGN out of Chicago back before everyone across the country could get it. It mixed cartoons with a weather report - and the guy would give a sports report, too. During the baseball season, he had this double-sided helmet with the Cubs on one side and White Sox on the other (note: Wrigley still owned the Cubs in 1979, and although WGN showed their games, the Tribune Company that splattered them all over the country on WGN and tried to run the Sox out of business did not buy them until 1981).

And he gave the DePaul update during the long winter Blizzard of 79. But he's also why I heard of some dude just 100 miles away named Larry Bird. He - and the local news - covered Bird like he was the President of the US. My first thought when I saw him was, "Well, he kinda looks like a bird." So I was familiar with Indiana State and that they lost the 1979 championship because I saw it on the (sorta) local kids show.
 
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Honestly… I wasn’t mad at all when we got put out last week. Basketball has conditioned me that I never expect to get past the 3rd round and so I never fully get my hopes up. There really is no room for a bad game and the national champion is just a team with 6 good games in a row. I was a little disappointed but this crap constantly happens in the sport

I actually get more mad when we inevitably get put out in Hoover during the baseball tournament every year…. And I am fully aware that we are the 10th best team in a 12 team tournament going in every year.
 
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I would like to see the women’s March Madness winner play the men’s winner, I.e. UCONN.

I honestly believe UCONN could beat the women’s winner 200+ to less than 10. Hmmmm, that is not meant to be a sexist statement, but reality. I’m not sure the women could get the ball across mid court without a 10 second infraction if the men played a pressure defense. Just saying.
Well, maybe the women's basketball championship team would do much better than I thought. That Iowa female, K. Clark, can sure BOMB away even closely guarded (3 pointers) and some of those female LSU players were very good and they can also hit those 3 pointers. Now, how they'd do against tall and aggressive dudes, I just don't know. I can see tall centers and forwards blocking most shots near the basket.

Now! The officiating in the championship game today I thought was horrendous.

LSU 102 Iowa 85. Congratulations LSU. I actually enjoyed the game seeing the SEC win after the USCe loss to Iowa in the final four.

Hmmmmm. My granddaughter plays on a soccer team (all females 9 & 10 year olds). The last three games I saw them play was against all boys teams. In those three games the girls won 9 to 0, 11 to 1, and 10 to 3. Wow! That's a total of 30 to 4. Now, yesterday, they played an all girls' team and won only 8 to 3. Are pre-teen girls just better than pre-teen boys? In the games the girls just seemed to be more aggressive. Most of the time the boys could not get the ball across mid-field.
 

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From the title of this thread, I love college football also, especially Alabama Crimson Tide football.
And I have loved it since Coach Bryant returned to Bama in the late 1950's. However, the NIL stuff is turning me away from the sport that I love. It's becoming the NFL-Lite.

Sorry for being off-topic with NCAA Women's Basketball. I just wish Bama had a NCAA Women's championship in Basketball. Actually, I want Alabama to win no matter the sport. Even if Alabama had a MARBLES team, I'd be pulling for them to win the NC.
 

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the college pitch clock has been there for nearly a decade in tournament play. However it wasn’t called that often. What the mlb has done however is above and beyond that. What they have done is interpreted the decline in viewership as a pace of play issue more than a regional and political issue (roids controversy and Stros cheating).
Great post. You’ve captured the essence of the real reasons for baseball’s decline and their refusal to either see or acknowledge it - don’t know which.
 
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Spurs dynasty? 🤔
The Miami Hurricanes were considered a dynasty when they won 4 championships in nine years. NONE of those titles were back-to-back.

San Antonio won 4 championships in nine years, none back-to-back - and at a MUCH HIGHER LEVEL of competition than Miami had.

If Miami was a dynasty, you can damn well bet the Spurs were a dynasty.
 
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The Miami Hurricanes were considered a dynasty when they won 4 championships in nine years. NONE of those titles were back-to-back.

San Antonio won 4 championships in nine years, none back-to-back - and at a MUCH HIGHER LEVEL of competition than Miami had.

If Miami was a dynasty, you can damn well bet the Spurs were a dynasty.
Miami wasn’t a dynasty to me. Spurs wasn’t either. Though close, no cookie, or churro in case of Barkley.
 

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