Sadly we were outcoached again...

[MOAN]

Wow, this comment thread is way out of line! I would not blame Saban for packing up his championships and leaving after he reads this crud!

The No.2 team in the nation got beat by the No.1 team in the nation by 3 point in OT!

It was a team loss just like the last 8 games were all team wins...

End of story...

I am ashamed of all of you!

I will take my beating and apologize LOL! The thing is most of us here thought we were the best team in the nation and should have won this game going away. Maybe you didn't as JessN didn't. I guess we ran him off after the bashing he got from all of us by suggesting we were No. 2.

Why would coach Saban run after losing? He has more pride in himself than that and he even said it started with him. He is a great coach but he is only God in Bama fans eyes. Sorry for your shame!

 

[RJ YellowHammer]

Wipe your noses and quit crying!


I am ashamed of all of you!

DT_lam:

:rofl:

You tell 'em.​

 

[Crimson Surfer]

Wow, this comment thread is way out of line!

I would not blame Saban one bit if he packed up all of his talent and championships and left after he reads this crud!

The No.2 team in the nation got beat by the No.1 team in the nation by 3 point in OT!

End of story...

It was a team loss just like the previous 8 games were all team wins...

Two teams with equal talent went toe to toe and we came up one kick short in overtime.

I am ashamed of all of you!

Wipe your noses and quit crying!

Easy, you are painting with a broad brush. A lot of us agree with you. We just didn't try and shame those with a different opinion.

 

[trenda]

He put the game on the back of his defense and special teams and let us self-destruct.

IF there was an area in which Saban got out-coached last night, this was it. I think Miles realized that - at least by the time we attempted our 3rd FG - his offense wasn't going to win the game and we were gonna press for points in an area we are not strong in (long FGs); so he played it conservative and smart. Hunker down, keep it close, and hope that we make a mistake at the end that puts them in position to steal a win. And that's exactly what happened.

The caveat in the whole thing was Reid's INT. If that is called correctly and we end up scoring (and winning the game), this thread is on the LSU board about Saban out-coaching Miles. That's life.

 

[MOAN]

I haven't read the entire thread but I strongly disagree with the titles premise that Miles outcoached Saban and the Bama staff. Bama did more than enough to win the game, however the breaks, and I mean big breaks just went LSU's way. jmofwiw

In hindsight I should have said out-executed instead of out-coached. I am sure our coaches worked as hard or harder than theirs did. But you can't put all the blame on 18-22 year olds and totally exonerate the coaches from blame. The coaches don't do it and neither should us fans.

Kicking the long fieldgoals were just a part of my frustration with the way the game was called. Penalties and play calling hurt just as bad or more. There was a reason those kicks were so long and it had nothing to do with the kickers.

 

[TexasBama]

IF there was an area in which Saban got out-coached last night, this was it. I think Miles realized that - at least by the time we attempted our 3rd FG - his offense wasn't going to win the game and we were gonna press for points in an area we are not strong in (long FGs); so he played it conservative and smart. Hunker down, keep it close, and hope that we make a mistake at the end that puts them in position to steal a win. And that's exactly what happened.

The caveat in the whole thing was Reid's INT. If that is called correctly and we end up scoring (and winning the game), this thread is on the LSU board about Saban out-coaching Miles. That's life.

The INT (or not) was the play of the game. Major league effort by the CB to get in the play.

 

[bamanix]

i am sorry, but, coach made a few bad decisions, and yea, i am not a coach. but, i have been watching college and pro football for 55 years. it really bothers me that once again we lose a big game at home auburn last year, lsu this year. my question is with the best defense in college football, we still play so conservative. please tell me with this defense we did not be more aggressive with the offense. the defense handled everything they had and still could not penetrate. when mccaron threw that interception, its like he lost all confidence, and each pass play after that he was only looking for the easiest pass. not like the tenn game. when your place kicker is not up to the game, then i would run trent and jalston the whole second half, and maintain the 3 point lead our defense could handle that. aj had more time to pass than at any other time this year. its been two or three years since we have had a solid placekicker. lsu has a great punter who kept us pinned inside the 10 yard line all night and a solid place kicker. we had two returns the whole night. and i agree, why let foster kick 45 yard field goals, when a good punt would put lsu in a whole we were in so much of the game. i am so tired of the game manager label. and that is what we play all the time. i think we should play all our games o n the road.

 

[bamanix]

reading all these reviews, makes me have to say something else. i agree, after the first long field goal, the next time we have to kick another over 45 field goal, there should be a punt and field them back enough to force them to punt again, and let our defense do their job. if you recall, even when we were on the 5 or 10 yard line we moved the ball effectively to their 45 or 40 yard line and then run out of steam, if we could have switched the field position would have been a difference maker. putting shelly in there was really bad. he was as nervous as could be on the block. the dye was cast early, and the game was going to be field position and field goals. that was my fear anyway. they definitely had special team advantage punting, field goals. we should have keyed on field position and gone to the 3 yards and a cloud of dust. as far as trent not getting any yardage later in the game is because we were repeating the same running plays. i thought sure in the second half, they would have gone to power runs without delays at the line. the best player we got rarely got chances in the 4th quarter or overtime. scary that a 5 yard penalty took us out of field goal territory. i would have given the to ball to trent three times, and tried a field goal inside the 25 yard line, could have made that.

 

[GMacFan]

Of course Bama didn't "execute," we've never really efficiently executed fifty-yard field goals and long-developing pass plays, but we tried to win the game with them last night. If the coaches would've called plays to Bama's strength, we would've "executed." Our staff failed to attack LSU where they were weak--in the middle--and instead had our RB's running sideline sideline...the one thing you can't do against LSU. And since when did AJ become Andrew Luck, in that the staff all of the sudden wants to put the game in his hands. I many times did Lacy touch the ball? Fowler never touched it. How many times did we give it to Trent running straight up the middle, instead trying to beat LSU's track stars around the edge?

I mean look at the OT. All we had to do was kick a field goal and trust our D. That should've have been our number one goal. AJ hadn't looked the entire second half with his passing. And passing plays are the only one that is likely to lose yards and put us out of field goal position. And what do we do? We pass three times in a row. Our playcalling handed the game to LSU on a silver platter.

 

[bamafan157]

I don't necessarily think Saban got outcoached, I just think that he respects LSU a little too much and was trying to do way too much out there. That HB pass call for example, we didn't need to do that in that situation, I think we would've driven down the field and scored if we had just given to Trent a few more times. He was starting to wear the defense down. And also I dont think anyone would have questioned that playcall if it had been called a catch by williams. He was wide open, it was just a late throw by Maze. I do think that maybe we shouldve been more aggressive in certain situations but Saban's gotten us this far, im not going to question him yet.

 

[trenda]

the best player we got rarely got chances in the 4th quarter or overtime. scary that a 5 yard penalty took us out of field goal territory. i would have given the to ball to trent three times, and tried a field goal inside the 25 yard line, could have made that.

To be fair to the coaching staff, Trent got the ball on 11 of our 15 plays in the 4th quarter (not counting the punt). The issue was - as has been mentioned - the actual plays called and clock strategy (not using timeouts and letting the clock run out to get to OT).

Now, overtime . . . I can't begin to explain that sequence of plays. Mind-boggling that you don't play to your strengths AT ALL.

 

[bamaslaw]

I mean look at the OT. All we had to do was kick a field goal and trust our D. That should've have been our number one goal. AJ hadn't looked the entire second half with his passing. And passing plays are the only one that is likely to lose yards and put us out of field goal position. And what do we do? We pass three times in a row. Our playcalling handed the game to LSU on a silver platter.

I don't want to be too critical here, because in a lot of ways I agree with you - BUT

1) How had FGs worked for us this game? I sure didn't want to leave it on the leg of kickers last night, at least not without getting one first down. I'm sure that was on the mind of the coaches.

2) The pass play calling in OT was somewhat predicated by our substitution penalty and getting behind the sticks. If it's 2nd and 10 I think we run the ball up the middle to get to 3rd and 7 or less. That would have dramatically changed our third down call and AJ wouldn't have gotten sacked IMO.

 

[USA Alum]

I disagree with the sentiment you were out-coached. Had some of the plays called worked, Saban would look like a genius. Execution execution execution...

Your players were out played, maybe, and you got some bum calls. I find it odd you can't use the ground to assist in completion of a ball but can use another player after he's already down. Maybe its just my ignorance but that was not an interception.

From my standpoint Alabama seemed the physically dominant team on the field. LSU kept running the option which is a ditch effort when your team is inferior to the other in terms of athleticism.

I can't say that necessarily the better team lost because I have come to expect from Alabama a consistency and class that always wins when possible. Saying the better team lost is selling yourselves short, imho. You all have a great program to be proud of. I broke barner rules and hoped you all won last night because I just can't stand some LSU players, and this attitude of mine was reinforced on that honey bonger dirty hit. Good luck on the rematch although I'd prefer to see you all shove Boise St's hype down their throat. I'll get back to hating you all in two weeks. Hopefully we'll give you some-what of a good game worthy of the rivalry.

ps. I'd love for the administration to allow South Alabama as an SBC choice for preferred team once they're full FBS.

 

[CaliforniaTide]

I've been over the loss about 10 minutes after the game ended. I don't care if that makes me not as much of a fan as y'all that are still stewing over this loss. Does it suck? Absolutely. Am I happy about it? I'm not at all, but it's only 1 loss. If we win out, we'll still end up in a BCS bowl. IMO, a consistent championship-contending program occurs when they're consistently in a BCS bowl. I know OSU had an easier road to get there, but they still had a shot because of their consistency of playing in a BCS bowl. If we win out, we'll be in our 3rd BCS bowl in 5 years - much better than our previous recent history of bowl games and season finishes.

Based on what I observed in the game, I think offensively speaking, we strove too much for balance instead of riding a hot hand. I've noticed this in all of our recent losses (starting from 2008 season). It's a great idea that we're balanced offensively if both the run and pass are in rhythm. Whether it's McElwain or Saban (probably a mixture of both), we seem to be pre-occupied with keeping balance, even if it means not riding a hot hand. I felt that in the first half, Trent Richardson was getting in rhythm, both running and catching the ball. In the second half, partly because of penalties and lack of execution, we got into some 2nd/3rd and longs that played right into LSU's speed rush. By the time OT rolled around, we just didn't know what to do offensively.

 

[Dallas4Bama]

I'd like to ask a question of those who think the coaching staff made all the right calls last night. Could you have walked in that locker room as a coach, look that defensive unit in the eye and tell them that you and the rest of the staff made all the right calls without question and did all you could do to get the win. I don't think that's what our coaches said or believed last night. That defense played their hearts out and left it all on the field. They don't ever have to question themselves.

 

[CoastGhost]

Unfortunately, all of you self-proclaimed gridiron genius types turned down the Bama head coaching job and we had to settle for Saban.

 

[BamaGunner]

In my humble opinion, the best coach on the field Saturday night was Kirby Smart.Whatever they pay him is not enough.

 

[CoastGhost]

I'd like to ask a question of those who think the coaching staff made all the right calls last night. Could you have walked in that locker room as a coach, look that defensive unit in the eye and tell them that you and the rest of the staff made all the right calls without question and did all you could do to get the win. I don't think that's what our coaches said or believed last night. That defense played their hearts out and left it all on the field. They don't ever have to question themselves.

Nice straw man there ... since nobody has said that anyone did everything exactly right. Poor execution on numerous occasions was the difference in what some consider bad calls and what others would have called brilliant had they been successful.

 

[Dallas4Bama]

Unfortunately, all of you self-proclaimed gridiron genius types turned down the Bama head coaching job and we had to settle for Saban.

Sorry a few people have the nerve to discuss or question lord Saban. He's not a god or something. It's like some of you worship him and get bent out of shape if anyone questions him. He is fallable.

 

[Crimson Speed]

I'm sick of all you people saying you are sick of all those people say we are outcoached.

LSU deserves a little bit of credit for the win.
Players not executing deserves a little bit of credit for the loss.
And yes, there were some really odd coaching decisions that also should come in for some criticism. I question kicking 47 yard field goals with questionable kickers when you can pooch punt the ball deep and play d. I question getting cute when you near the red zone (halfback pass, jet sweeps that lose yards when you have Trent freaking Richardson in the backfield. I question putting a punter returner out on the field with a badly sprained ankle, so badly sprained that he can't backpeddle (They did correct that mistake, but only after allowing a 70 yard punt late in the fourth quarter.)

It's a message board, for Pete's sake. If you don't want to read criticisms of coaching decisions, avert your eyes.

I agree with you. However, we still have the best college coach in America. Would I trade him for Les Miles; absolutely not.
We moved the ball on them and had plenty of opportunities to win this one. The ball jlust bounces strange directions at times and it was a combination of several things that cost us this game. Yes, LSU won and there is no changing that fact, but the best team doesn't always win. Heck, I can recall several games against the Viles where they outplayed us all over the field, but we ended up winning. The bottom line; we still have a great team and we have a lot of winning left in us.