Alabama QB competition article

[Bamabuzzard]

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To attempt to respond to your comment I believe that the golf swing and baseball swing have great similarity in that we we have to clear out the front side, get the club head inside, accomplish a dynamic weight transfer and release the right (top) hand at the moment of impact. We have seen untrained amateur golfers who attempt to hit the golf ball with both arms who generate little club speed or power. Same with baseball hitters who "cast" the bat at the start of the swing thus greatly reducing their bat speed. The throwing motion has many of the same dynamics. If a thrower begins to accelerate their arm before dynamically squaring their shoulders and transferring their weight it greatly lengthens the motion and reduces arm speed. They can still heave the ball a long way but it lacks the velocity and spin which imparts much more accuracy.

Both swings will drive someone into being an alcoholic. I've played both golf (recreational level) and baseball (competitive level) and coached baseball for years. There are so many moving parts to both swings and the slightest most subtle change can drastically impact the outcome. BARTENDER!!! LOAD ME UP ANOTHER ROUND!!!!

 

[BamaMoon]

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Don’t know if it has been asked but,

is it significant that Tua is the holder for kicks?

I think he was the holder last year, so I don't think it means anything more than he's going to hold this year, at least to begin with. FWIW, it's possible if Mac Jones is equally as good, that he might start holding if Tua becomes the permanent #1 QB. But I seem to also remember AJM holding as the starter QB also.

 

[BamaMoon]

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Both swings will drive someone into being an alcoholic. I've played both golf (recreational level) and baseball (competitive level) and coached baseball for years. There are so many moving parts to both swings and the slightest most subtle change can drastically impact the outcome. BARTENDER!!! LOAD ME UP ANOTHER ROUND!!!!

I've been playing golf for over 25 years now. Learned as a young adult.

I think the golf swing is the hardest part of sport I've ever tried to master. As you say, just the slightest thing gets off (timing or mechanically) and the golf ball could be 50 yards off target.

I love to watch Peter Kostis breakdown PGA tour swings with that super slow motion camera. It's almost impossible to the untrained eye to see what he's talking about in super slow motion, much less in real time.

 

[TideEngineer08]

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I think it's safe to say if we didn't have Tua during the title game we would have lost. Granted, I get your jist of "win with them or without them" but we literally wouldn't have won the NCG without Tua in the game.

Correct. We'll win with him or without him, but the difference is probably 10-2 without him and 12-0 with him. I mean, we at least used to consider 10-2 "winning," right?

 

[UAH]

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Both swings will drive someone into being an alcoholic. I've played both golf (recreational level) and baseball (competitive level) and coached baseball for years. There are so many moving parts to both swings and the slightest most subtle change can drastically impact the outcome. BARTENDER!!! LOAD ME UP ANOTHER ROUND!!!!

I could never manage to clear my hips consistently to get the club head inside the ball. The great frustration of amateur golfers to push or slice the ball. Golf or baseball is a lot like playing defensive back. Great hip flexibility is a pre-requisite.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

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I've been playing golf for over 25 years now. Learned as a young adult.

I think the golf swing is the hardest part of sport I've ever tried to master. As you say, just the slightest thing gets off (timing or mechanically) and the golf ball could be 50 yards off target.

I love to watch Peter Kostis breakdown PGA tour swings with that super slow motion camera. It's almost impossible to the untrained eye to see what he's talking about in super slow motion, much less in real time.

The only reason I put hitting a baseball on the same degree of difficulty as the golf swing is because once you reach a certain level you have to be able to adjust your swing during the swing because the ball that you thought was one thing is actually another. For example, you're geared up for a four seam fast ball at 91 mph and after you've gotten into your swing the ball begins to cut inside. You have to have the ability to bring your hands further "inside" the ball than you had calculated during your swing. That is extraordinarily difficult to do. Both swings are very, very hard and frustrating. Both have caused me to have nuclear meltdowns to the point of throwing equipment. BARTENDER!!!! I NEED ANOTHER ONE!!!!

 

[uafan4life]

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We will win with Tua or with out him. We will win with Tua's brother or with out him. We will win with Jalen or with out him.


Never in life would Coach Saban kowtow to anyone when it comes to his team let alone a current players parents. This coming from you is disappointing and out of your posting character. Coach Saban will do what leads to wins.


I expect Tua to be the man this year but it would be funny to see what would happen if Jalen played and lit it up. I imagine some would still try to criticize Coach Saban's judgment as if they know more about winning or the pulse of this team than he does. People are having revisionist history about Miss Blake Barnett. She took her 5 star talent to another power 5 school and still didn't win the job over a 3 star. Maybe Coach Saban saw the same thing they saw in Arizona that she was not ready yet. She may be ready now but not when it was time to lead us to the CFP. I am rolling with the Tide even if they put Ben Davis at starting QB. I love Alabama football more than any one or two players. If either of those guys transfer on us in the middle of the season they will forever be dead to me.

This is a very douche-y post.

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[uafan4life]

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Since we seem to be all about the golf talk...

You know how they say to never try to fix your swing mid-round?

I'm still trying to figure out how to stop trying to fix my swing mid-swing.

I am down to a single-digit handicap, though.

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[BamaMoon]

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I could never manage to clear my hips consistently to get the club head inside the ball. The great frustration of amateur golfers to push or slice the ball. Golf or baseball is a lot like playing defensive back. Great hip flexibility is a pre-requisite.

I know we've strayed off topic, but to me the clearing of the hips happens from the ground up. The weight transfer to the back foot (which I accomplish with slightly raising my left heal in the backswing) allows you to push up and transfer your weight to the front foot in beginning stages of the downswing. I've found when I get my weight transfered by using the ground my hips clear without me thinking about it.

 

[Bamabuzzard]

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Since we seem to be all about the golf talk...

You know how they say to never try to fix your swing mid-round?

I'm still trying to figure out how to stop trying to fix my swing mid-swing.

I am down to a single-digit handicap, though.

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Every time you have the urge to "fix" something. Drink a beer instead. It makes the game much "more funner".

 

[BamaMoon]

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Since we seem to be all about the golf talk...

You know how they say to never try to fix your swing mid-round?

I'm still trying to figure out how to stop trying to fix my swing mid-swing.

I am down to a single-digit handicap, though.

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My low handicap/almost scratch golfing buddy reminds me that you shouldn't be "thinking" about anything during the golf swing. He's had trouble breaking through to me about this.

 

[KrAzY3]

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Not to take thing things from the pleasant discussion of golf to something else...

But, for Saban to name a starter in this situation, prior to the start of the regular season would be completely out of character for him. The only time he didn't have an open competition was with GMac. That's it. Every other time we've seen a QB battle go into the season, unless he he an established starter, even when the outcome seemed fairly obvious. Who starts a game doesn't matter all that much either, considering Blake Barnett and Cooper Bateman both got a start under their belt. He's been out there saying he hasn't named a starter, so I think we understand how this plays out.

There's no real reason for Saban to name a starter right now. Out of his championships at Alabama, only two have had the same guy go wire to wire as the established guy at QB. The others either started or ended in a quarterback battle. So, while I think Saban is wary of a two QB system, he's not afraid of a competition and I'm not sure why he should be.

I think Tua is going to be the guy, but it looks like he's going to let this play out into the regular season. And why shouldn't he? What is anyone afraid of? Tua is amazingly talented, but he hasn't played in many high pressure situations, Saban has nothing to gain by giving him a title right now. So it looks like he's going to play both, there's nothing wrong with that, that's how he's done things and there are a variety of reasons to do it (keeps both players engaged and he doesn't have to name one guy the starter then bench him).

I think there's a lot of daylight between Jalen Hurts starting a game and being named the starter. I don't have any reason to believe he'll be named the starter, and I see no reason to believe Tua can't handle this situation maturely. He just has to go out there and play like we know he's capable of and there will be no issue.

 

[BamaMoon]

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Not to take thing things from the pleasant discussion of golf to something else...

But, for Saban to name a starter prior in this situation, prior to the start of the regular season would be completely out of character for him. The only time he didn't have an open competition was with GMac. That's it.

AJ's junior and senior year he was the undisputed starter.

 

[KrAzY3]

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AJ's junior and senior year he was the undisputed starter.

I edited my post to clarify in situations other than an established starter. If he hasn't named a starter in the spring or fall practice, it has always, always gone into the regular season. Basically if he hasn't named a starter yet, he won't name one for the Louisville game either.

Edit: By the way the depth chart came out for the game and it says Tua/Hurts at #1

 

[BamaMoon]

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I edited my post to clarify in situations other than an established starter. If he hasn't named a starter in the spring or fall practice, it has always, always gone into the regular season. Basically if he hasn't named a starter yet, he won't name one for the Louisville game either.

Edit: By the way the depth chart came out for the game and it says Tua/Hurts at #1

Ah, I understand. I don't read very well at times.

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

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I edited my post to clarify in situations other than an established starter. If he hasn't named a starter in the spring or fall practice, it has always, always gone into the regular season. Basically if he hasn't named a starter yet, he won't name one for the Louisville game either.

Edit: By the way the depth chart came out for the game and it says Tua/Hurts at #1

Believe it or not, Kirby Smart hasn't named a starter at UGA and wont name one...............and some of the UGA fans are anxious as well........wonder where he learned that from? ; )

 

[CrimsonSpartan]

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I care immensely about who takes the first step because it sends a message to all the recruits out there.

I dont care who takes the first snap at Lville (and I originally thought it would still be Jalen).

Tua will be the full time starter soon enough and we should win all these early games no problem.

Coach has his reasons for whatever decision he makes, but Tua won't be kept off the field.

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[crimsonaudio]

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I care immensely about who takes the first step because it sends a message to all the recruits out there.

No offense, but CNS has forgotten more about recruiting than all of us here combined will ever know.

 

[twofbyc]

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I prefer that Tua start, but I also think we'll likely beat UL either way. One concern I have is how the fans in the stadium will react if Jalen trots out there to take the first snap. If the fans 'Boo' (and especially if it's heard on TV) that will not be a good look. How will that make Jalen feel? I'd be embarrassed and also feel bad for Jalen.

I'm cheering either way, but I definitely prefer that Tua be the starting QB.

Anyone in the stadium who boos if Jalen takes the first snap aren’t real Bama fans and don’t deserve to be there. JMO


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[MobileCrimson]

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Anyone in the stadium who boos if Jalen takes the first snap aren’t real Bama fans and don’t deserve to be there. JMO


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I don't think there will be boos unless Jalen really struggles throwing the ball. There will be loud cheers for Tua once he replaces Jalen (assuming Jalen starts).

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