Alabama QBs in 2024, II

[B1GTide]

How many QBs show marked improvement in key areas during the season?

I have no idea, but my guess is that more often than not they don’t simply because it’s hard to work on fundamentals when you’re devoting nearly every moment to game prep each week.

Seems like significant improvement would have to come in the offseason…the old “The time to fix your roof is when the sun is shining, not when it’s pouring down rain” deal.

You are right, but gt was responding to a post that suggested that there had been.

 

[davefrat]

You are right, but gt was responding to a post that suggested that there had been.

Understood, I was just asking the question generally.

I’m so over all the back and forth about the QB situation.

Maybe we’ll run the single wing and have a FB take the snap.

PS really hoping Trey has a monster year for y’all and plays his way into the first round.

He‘s the best thing to come out of our area since Pocahontas.

 

[BamaMoon]

The amount of doubt in Milroe's ability to improve from last year to this year, particularly by our fan base, just seem strange. Maybe we have been used to a certain level or style of QB play that we didn't know how to process what we were watching last year, but given how well Milroe played in the second half of the year, I just don't quite understand it.

I think there's a good chance JM does improve and I hope the comparisons to those other QBs playout.

The issue I have, in particular, with the quote above is I didn't see the significant improvement you refer to in the second half of the year. And yes, I do think the 4 QBs that preceded him have a lot to do with processing what we are seeing.

But, let's agree that he will likely improve compared to last year.

 

[AlexanderFan]

How many QBs show marked improvement in key areas during the season?

I have no idea, but my guess is that more often than not they don’t simply because it’s hard to work on fundamentals when you’re devoting nearly every moment to game prep each week.

Seems like significant improvement would have to come in the offseason…the old “The time to fix your roof is when the sun is shining, not when it’s pouring down rain” deal.

The argument for Milroe was that game reps and experience would make him better. Reps with the 1s, most of the reps, etc. etc. all the things you get being THE GUY.

 

[BamaMoon]

Understood, I was just asking the question generally.

I’m so over all the back and forth about the QB situation.

Maybe we’ll run the single wing and have a FB take the snap.

This topic has been very quiet and we are exactly 2 weeks away from our first game.

If the topic makes you uncomfortable just skip to the next thread.

@davefrat the following isn't addressed to you, but to the board in general.

But there has been some news about QBs lately and believe it or not one of the things that generated it was an update of practice stating JM wasn't doing anything spectacular but he was doing some little things (referring to short passes) very well. That's positive news IMO about Jalen's improvement.

I think this kind of news is pretty significant, but there's a hesitancy (I know this for a fact based on some private messages) to discuss things about the QBs because some people act as if we shouldn't discuss anything that could lead to an inspection of JM's play.

IMO, since we've had the "JM police" try to step in and control the narrative, the board's traffic has suffered.

 

[AlexanderFan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1824903897900630020

Good pass from Simpson and Milroe. Wondering who threw the interception. Was that mibakwe and the ones or someone else?

Edited to say the interception was caught by king Mack and mibakwe was the trailing db

Whoever threw that pick was late and in. Yuck.

That might not even be Simpson throwing the deep ball dive catch either.

 

[davefrat]

The argument for Milroe was that game reps and experience would make him better. Reps with the 1s, most of the reps, etc. etc. all the things you get being THE GUY.

I just don’t see how that could be considering all the other things that they have to do during the season.

 

[AlexanderFan]

I just don’t see how that could be considering all the other things that they have to do during the season.

Getting to play quarterback more helps you play quarterback better.

Remember the starters get the most reps. More time throwing, running plays, building chemistry and all that.

 

[BamaMoon]

Whoever threw that pick was late and in. Yuck.

That might not even be Simpson throwing the deep ball dive catch either.

Yeah, that was a bad, bad throw. And two of those highlights were QBs leading receivers into getting "lit up."

Not really the greatest of highlight for the QBs.

Is there another 15 other than TS playing QB?

 

[davefrat]

Getting to play quarterback more helps you play quarterback better.

Remember the starters get the most reps. More time throwing, running plays, building chemistry and all that.

I could see it leading to incremental improvements but I think it would be asking a lot to see a player remedy major deficiencies in the course of a contested season, but certainly in terms of chemistry with teammates and fixing minor things.

I would think seeing the field and reaction time would be a stretch, but maybe.

 

[Power Eye]

I think this kind of news is pretty significant, but there's a hesitancy (I know this for a fact based on some private messages) to discuss things about the QBs because some people act as if we shouldn't discuss anything that could lead to an inspection of JM's play.

That's a very fair statement. I don't think that an inspection of Milroe's play should be off limits, and perhaps that's where many posters are coming from. They are critiquing his game rather than calling for the back-up, and to me that is perfectly reasonable. I've just seen a lot of innuendos that un an unknown commodity would do better than Milroe based on second and third hand intel from practices and scrimmages.

Regarding your statement that you don't believe Milroe improved in the 2nd half of the season, I agree that he didn't necessarily improve much, if any, as a passer. To me the improvement came in his understanding of when to run and doing it very effectively starting at the 2nd half of the Tennessee game.

 

[BamaMoon]

That's a very fair statement. I don't think that an inspection of Milroe's play should be off limits, and perhaps that's where many posters are coming from. They are critiquing his game rather than calling for the back-up, and to me that is perfectly reasonable. I've just seen a lot of innuendos that un an unknown commodity would do better than Milroe based on second and third hand intel from practices and scrimmages.

Regarding your statement that you don't believe Milroe improved in the 2nd half of the season, I agree that he didn't necessarily improve much, if any, as a passer. To me the improvement came in his understanding of when to run and doing it very effectively starting at the 2nd half of the Tennessee game.

More exactly, the LSU game after the off week. His best game of the year, but it's when they (CTR) changed a lot of what they were doing by shrinking the field for him, designing and calling runs for him and taking RPO reads away since he struggled so mightily with it. The changes worked until teams caught up with what we were doing.

 

[AlexanderFan]

I could see it leading to incremental improvements but I think it would be asking a lot to see a player remedy major deficiencies in the course of a contested season, but certainly in terms of chemistry with teammates and fixing minor things.

I would think seeing the field and reaction time would be a stretch, but maybe.

The biggest issue Milroe’s detractors have is that he’s kind of backwards: he struggles at the mundane and excels at the unlikely. His best throw is the deep ball, and that takes a lot of work.

He struggles with the quick throws and read options, something quarterbacks come from high school with some proficiency in.

We ( I am a detractor I suppose), just don’t think you can learn that stuff at this point if you haven’t already.

 

[Ledsteplin]

The biggest issue Milroe’s detractors have is that he’s kind of backwards: he struggles at the mundane and excels at the unlikely. His best throw is the deep ball, and that takes a lot of work.

He struggles with the quick throws and read options, something quarterbacks come from high school with some proficiency in.

We ( I am a detractor I suppose), just don’t think you can learn that stuff at this point if you haven’t already.

You speak in present tense. It appears he's corrected some of those issues some of you like to blow out of proportion.

 

[AlexanderFan]

You speak in present tense. It appears he's corrected some of those issues some of you like to blow out of proportion.

Its practice. The improved short pass report was in 7 on 7 drills. Until he does it consistently versus opponents where we can see the good and bad plays, we have an entire season’s worth of proof to what I wrote.

These issues aren’t blown out of proportion, you ignore the obvious.

 

[bamamc1]

The folks on here that support Milroe, or better yet, whomever is playing as a starter at QB, should just quit posting and whine to each other on DM and have people lament our lack of participation on this website. Good Lord.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

The folks on here that support Milroe, or better yet, whomever is playing as a starter at QB, should just quit posting and whine to each other on DM and have people lament our lack of participation on this website. Good Lord.

I've read this about 10x's and still aren't sure what you are saying?

 

[Ledsteplin]

The folks on here that support Milroe, or better yet, whomever is playing as a starter at QB, should just quit posting and whine to each other on DM and have people lament our lack of participation on this website. Good Lord.

Whine about what? Supporting our quarterback?

 

[tusks_n_raider]

Read this from a guy on another message board that was at the scrimmage today.

"Milroe looked great. Simpson, absolutely amazing. I think Milroe is starter but the separation is paper thin and the slightest fall and he’s out."

Just read the same and based on the source I believe it.

I think after the Georgia game Simpson will be the Starting QB.... maybe even before.

 

[Tidewater]

IMO, since we've had the "JM police" try to step in and control the narrative, the board's traffic has suffered.

I just hope everyone has fun.