Bama Game Thread: Official Postgame Thread - Reliaquest Bowl, Bama vs. Michigan, Dec. 31, 11:00 AM, ESPN...

[tusks_n_raider]

Keep in mind, the only QB on our roster recruited by CKD is AM and he's a work in progress.

And...JM was a CNS starting QB. So, I'm not sure I agree with your logic. Perhaps if you said every CNS starting QB, except JM...

You could pick anyone from JPW to Bryce and we don’t lose those 3 games.

I feel like you understand that’s what I meant.

Milroe is a terrible player.

He’s the worst QB we’ve had on the field since Pennington.

 

[mlh]

You could pick anyone from JPW to Bryce and we don’t lose those 3 games.

I feel like you understand that’s what I meant.

Milroe is a terrible player.

He’s the worst QB we’ve had on the field since Pennington.

That I agree with.

 

[Tidewater]

Ty probably doesn't do much better, and then everyone would be writing off Ty, as if it weren't a situation where he wete set up for failure. On the road, getting his first meaningful game action against one of the best defenses in the country. That's not a situation I'd want for anyone. Tua excelled in a similar situation, but he is our GOAT QB imo..

Not really what I was asking.
If NIL mandates who plays QB, and DeBoer "violates" that by playing Simpson after Milroe's second interception, what NIL mechanism kicks in to force DeBoer to put Milroe back in? Does Milroe secure an emergency court order to enforce the conditions of the NIL contract? If it is contract that Milroe has to play, what coach in his right mind would accept employment under those conditions?

 

[Tidewater]

You could pick anyone from JPW to Bryce and we don’t lose those 3 games.

I feel like you understand that’s what I meant.

Milroe is a terrible player.

He’s the worst QB we’ve had on the field since Pennington.

Tyler Buchner USF in 2023 5/14, 34 yards

 

[CB4]

Ty probably doesn't do much better, and then everyone would be writing off Ty, as if it weren't a situation where he wete set up for failure. On the road, getting his first meaningful game action against one of the best defenses in the country. That's not a situation I'd want for anyone. Tua excelled in a similar situation, but he is our GOAT QB imo..

That’s just it. We don’t know. He could just as easily succeed as fail. Same for Austin Mack. At some point, you have to give players opportunities to succeed or fail on their own merits. And even in unsuccessful situations, there is something you learn about the player’s resilience.

We certainly gave Jalen more than enough time to test his resilience.

 

[bamamc1]

Oka, please, explain it to me. In the Oklahoma game, Milroe throws his second interception, Coach DeBoer pulls him and sends in Simpson.
What happens next?
(Not trying to be a smart aleck. Honest question. What happens after that decision?

We win the Bourbon Bowl.

 

[CrimsonTitles]

That’s just it. We don’t know. He could just as easily succeed as fail. Same for Austin Mack. At some point, you have to give players opportunities to succeed or fail on their own merits. And even in unsuccessful situations, there is something you learn about the player’s resilience.

We certainly gave Jalen more than enough time to test his resilience.

But that's assuming there wasn't a deal in place for Milroe to be the starter this year. There was. That's the only explanation. Unless Milroe got hurt, there was zero chance anyone else played.

 

[squib]

If it is contract that Milroe has to play, what coach in his right mind would accept employment under those conditions?

A coach who didn’t know until LANK walked in to his office grinning and smoking a big cigar.

And by then, the coach needs someone to hold the team together and stem the tide of transfers. So he sells his soul for what he thinks is a yearlong deal.

 

[tusks_n_raider]

Tyler Buchner USF in 2023 5/14, 34 yards

Ya’ll are going to make me be pedanticly specific I guess.

I mean any established CNS starting QB from 2007-2022

No I’m not counting Blake Barnett or Cooper Bateman

JPW
McElroy
AJ
Sims
Coker
Hurts
Tua
Mac
Bryce

They are all better than Milroe

Worlds Better

Milroe is the worst entrenched QB starter than before any of those guys.

I’m not meaning one off examples.

 

[mlh]

But that's assuming there wasn't a deal in place for Milroe to be the starter this year. There was. That's the only explanation. Unless Milroe got hurt, there was zero chance anyone else played.

That's the only explanation that makes sense to me. Hopefully, the "deal" was only for the 2024 season.

 

[colbysullivan]

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Man, I’ve been on this forum for 17 years. I didn’t need Jalen Milroe then, and I don’t need him now. Delete this post. This was below the belt.

 

[DzynKingRTR]

Ya’ll are going to make me be pedanticly specific I guess.

I mean any established CNS starting QB from 2007-2022

No I’m not counting Blake Barnett or Cooper Bateman

JPW
McElroy
AJ
Sims
Coker
Hurts
Tua
Mac
Bryce

They are all better than Milroe

Worlds Better

Milroe is the worst entrenched QB starter than before any of those guys.

I’m not meaning one off examples.

I would have killed for a QB like Blake Sims this year.

 

[B1GTide]

I would have killed for a QB like Blake Sims this year.

Who?

 

[colbysullivan]

Tyler Buchner USF in 2023 5/14, 34 yards

This obviously doesn’t count

 

[colbysullivan]

That's the only explanation that makes sense to me. Hopefully, the "deal" was only for the 2024 season.

It’s pretty clear it was for 2023 too. We saw what happened after the USF game.

 

[CrimsonTitles]

Not really what I was asking.
If NIL mandates who plays QB, and DeBoer "violates" that by playing Simpson after Milroe's second interception, what NIL mechanism kicks in to force DeBoer to put Milroe back in? Does Milroe secure an emergency court order to enforce the conditions of the NIL contract? If it is contract that Milroe has to play, what coach in his right mind would accept employment under those conditions?

I don't think it's an NIL thing. I think it was in exchange for Milroe staying and holding the roster together. If you break that kind of deal, then you risk alienating the players.

 

[colbysullivan]

I would have killed for a QB like Blake Sims this year.

I think Coker would have excelled. People forget how good he was in the short/intermediate game. Obviously guys like Tua, Mac, and Bryce would have been lethal too.

 

[CoolBreeze]

Man, I’ve been on this forum for 17 years. I didn’t need Jalen Milroe then, and I don’t need him now. Delete this post. This was below the belt.

We love you CS!

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Sorry y’all.
I’ve got no choice here.

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Step away from the tub

 

[Tidewater]

Ya’ll are going to make me be pedanticly specific I guess.

I mean any established CNS starting QB from 2007-2022

No I’m not counting Blake Barnett or Cooper Bateman

JPW
McElroy
AJ
Sims
Coker
Hurts
Tua
Mac
Bryce

They are all better than Milroe

Worlds Better

Milroe is the worst entrenched QB starter than before any of those guys.

I’m not meaning one off examples.

fair point. I agree. It has been a long time since Bama has had a QB with so much playing time who has underperformed so badly. (Milroe saw action in 2021, 22, 23, and 24.