Alabama QBs in 2024, II

[gman4tide]

A coach can put someone else in. There's more than one way to fix a bad snap. And, if there's no one any better to put in . . . that's on coaches, too.

And you're telling me that the 3 or 4 dudes on the team (that can snap), can't do good enough to unseat the dude that can't snap it decently? That's a more scary thought. Maybe you can't block quite as good as this guy, but does that equal out the loss of yardage/turnovers of multiple snaps? Could the guy not improve with real game time experience??

 

[Bamabuzzard]

Been offline for several months.......so does anyone have info that Milrore can make Tua or Young passes yet?

Yes, it was reported on the first day of camp he threw a pass through the end of a McDonalds straw from 25 yards away.

 

[Coach D]

My response was about your comment about OL and JM the rest of the season. They weren't his problem

That’s a whole other discussion nothing about my point.

As far as that the oline and rb blocking weren’t the best all year either and individuals missed blocks all year which is why I said you can’t judge based on one play and claim conspiracy.

to what you are tiring to point this to I think, Milroe did poorly like Simpson holding the ball too long all year. It’s a combo of everything with Milroe and oline. I also can’t give Rees a free pass on everything. He was the OC, Simpson was ill prepared for USF and it took a long time to adjust for Milroe. Just a bad combo of a lot on the year. There were some good play designs and Rees called some decent games with QB missing this but he should know the ability of his QBs and don’t even get started on the bad snaps.

 

[gman4tide]

That’s a whole other discussion nothing about my point.

As far as that the oline and rb blocking weren’t the best all year either and individuals missed blocks all year which is why I said you can’t judge based on one play and claim conspiracy.

to what you are tiring to point this to I think, Milroe did poorly like Simpson holding the ball too long all year. It’s a combo of everything with Milroe and oline. I also can’t give Rees a free pass on everything. He was the OC, Simpson was ill prepared for USF and it took a long time to adjust for Milroe. Just a bad combo of a lot on the year. There were some good play designs and Rees called some decent games with QB missing this but he should know the ability of his QBs and don’t even get started on the bad snaps.

When did TS get enough plays to "hold the ball too long" last season? The only game he really had a chance to throw more than a handful of balls was the usf game and the sacks he took weren't of the kind where he stood there for 3-4 seconds.

 

[Coach D]

Yes.

ok then have a good day. Can’t discuss with someone who can only see what they want and has their mind made. Zero real evidence and no word from players or coaches and like I said I literally just watched the game and don’t see it. If players can be that selfish and try to possibly ruin their own chances of the NFL and add in hurting each others chances then I can’t see how the team wouldn’t collapse. If your co worker sabotaged you I don’t think you would just take it and keep trying 100%.

 

[Coach D]

When did TS get enough plays to "hold the ball too long" last season? The only game he really had a chance to throw more than a handful of balls was the usf game and the sacks he took weren't of the kind where he stood there for 3-4 seconds.

I am speaking to that game. I just watched again. Simpson had 3 or more plays when USF finally didn’t rush more than 3-4 guys. Simpson held the ball and didn’t move in the pocket. Bad plays/sacks. BUT it appeared he was not well prepared be Rees and Rees couldn’t help adjust in that game. He played below avg and buchner was well bad but Burton did drop a 50 yard TD from him. After rewatching that game I realize I did over hype Simpson in my mind because he made a great pass to the TE and I was just frustrated by Milroe. I did want Simpson to get a real chance but like I said rewatching he didn’t look ready.

 

[HighlandOak]

ok then have a good day. Can’t discuss with someone who can only see what they want and has their mind made. Zero real evidence and no word from players or coaches and like I said I literally just watched the game and don’t see it. If players can be that selfish and try to possibly ruin their own chances of the NFL and add in hurting each others chances then I can’t see how the team wouldn’t collapse. If your co worker sabotaged you I don’t think you would just take it and keep trying 100%.

So . . . I should take your word that you can't see it over the word of several other posters that CAN see it? Yeah, that makes sense.

 

[Cruloc]

Yes, it was reported on the first day of camp he threw a pass through the end of a McDonalds straw from 25 yards away.

I heard he was standing in one endzone throwing to the other endzone with ease, all while blindfolded and one arm tied behind his back.

 

[NoNC4Tubs]

I heard he was standing in one endzone throwing to the other endzone with ease, all while blindfolded and one arm tied behind his back.

Heard he out-threw Uncle Rico by a mile...

 

[Con]

If you’re basing things on one play for players then the whole o line hated JM throughout the year too. lol

Yep, cause he was sacked a whole lot.

 

[gtgilbert]

That’s a whole other discussion nothing about my point.

As far as that the oline and rb blocking weren’t the best all year either and individuals missed blocks all year which is why I said you can’t judge based on one play and claim conspiracy.

to what you are tiring to point this to I think, Milroe did poorly like Simpson holding the ball too long all year. It’s a combo of everything with Milroe and oline. I also can’t give Rees a free pass on everything. He was the OC, Simpson was ill prepared for USF and it took a long time to adjust for Milroe. Just a bad combo of a lot on the year. There were some good play designs and Rees called some decent games with QB missing this but he should know the ability of his QBs and don’t even get started on the bad snaps.

Milroe didn't just do poorly. he was the worst in FBS in holding the ball. Literally the worst - not my stat. That's PFF data.

I'm not sure what CTR could have done differently. Even when CTR adjusted by leveraging flood routes so JM only had to look at one side of the field, JM didn't execute the short throws that were WIDE open. It's hard for the OC to make an adjustment to take off the pressure when the QB is just so unable to be in sync with the flow of the play that he can't/won't pull the trigger to hit wide open routes to the point the D just backs off of them knowing there's almost no risk of JM completing that play. Really, what ability of JMs does CTR tailor to? Zone Reads? nope, JM couldn't read the end so had to take that out. Hot routes? nope - see above. Literally, what to do?

 

[gman4tide]

Aight, i just ran thru that game again (and it sucked just as bad ffwding). This is what "I" see/saw:
1st pass: 2sec rush up middle throwaway
2nd: 3sec sack..74 whiffed and bout got TS broke in half. Didn't offer to help up.
3rd: scramble incomplete
4th: throwaway incomplete (right at half)
5th: 3.5sec sack...JM sidestepped block and turned away after sack.
6th: poor screen setup incomplete
7th: Dime to te
8th: terrible throw/great catch by outz
9th: 3-4 sec sack
10th: 3 sec sack right around proctor...he turns and walks away
11th: 3rd completion...first real quick strike to bond
12th: 4 sec bad sack but latham did just open up after initial contact.
13: nice pass to benson.
That may have been all his pass attempts that game.
I'm no coach, but i didn't see anything they did diff on defense other than blitz a lot...but i think thats what their d cord is known for?
Got a really good pic of jalen holding his arms out like "welp, ain't nothin i can do" right after giving five to someone walking down sideline. That little camera grab spoke volumes to me about that day. But maybe i see things differently. Oh, and why didnt we see jace mc for more than a breather play for roydell in the second half? Maybe cause of TS's 5th pass attempt?
I did see Roydell play like a man. I saw TS gut out his first win (even though he didn't start).

 

[BhamToTexas]

I was bored so I just watched the first half again. I saw no signs of a mutiny. A couple of the worst plays/sacks were the blitzes we couldn't pick up near the goal line but that was after TS came in so doesn't point to a mutiny against TB starting.

I did see a lot of poor execution, by TB too, with some pretty poor throws.

 

[AWRTR]

Milroe didn't just do poorly. he was the worst in FBS in holding the ball. Literally the worst - not my stat. That's PFF data.

I'm not sure what CTR could have done differently. Even when CTR adjusted by leveraging flood routes so JM only had to look at one side of the field, JM didn't execute the short throws that were WIDE open. It's hard for the OC to make an adjustment to take off the pressure when the QB is just so unable to be in sync with the flow of the play that he can't/won't pull the trigger to hit wide open routes to the point the D just backs off of them knowing there's almost no risk of JM completing that play. Really, what ability of JMs does CTR tailor to? Zone Reads? nope, JM couldn't read the end so had to take that out. Hot routes? nope - see above. Literally, what to do?

I just remember the frustrated look on CTR's face during the Texas game. That told me everything I needed to know.

 

[CB4]

Yes, it was reported on the first day of camp he threw a pass through the end of a McDonalds straw from 25 yards away.

And last night JM signed a new NIL deal with Mickey D’s where in a future commercial he throws a pass from 50 yards away, striking the shake machine and suddenly making the always dysfunctional machine spring back to life. Jalen then looks a the camera, winks and says “I’m lovin’ It”…..

 

[Cruloc]

Wasn't there also a missing OL....that had "back spasms" that day....and only that day.

 

[Cruloc]

And last night JM signed a new NIL deal with Mickey D’s where in a future commercial he throws a pass from 50 yards away, striking the shake machine and suddenly making the always dysfunctional machine spring back to life. Jalen then looks a the camera, winks and says “I’m lovin’ It”…..

Milroe recruited Bobby Boucher to play LB at Bama this season, promised him no gatorade would be on the sidelines.

 

[davefrat]

Good Lord man. I can’t sit here and let you continue to gaslight people. One play our OL literally LET Ty get sacked and then didn’t help him up when he asked for it. Open your eyes.

Expecting more than anecdotal evidence about this mutiny from the people who have said it occurred for months and months is gaslighting?

 

[bamajas]

That’s a whole other discussion nothing about my point.

As far as that the oline and rb blocking weren’t the best all year either and individuals missed blocks all year which is why I said you can’t judge based on one play and claim conspiracy.

to what you are tiring to point this to I think, Milroe did poorly like Simpson holding the ball too long all year. It’s a combo of everything with Milroe and oline. I also can’t give Rees a free pass on everything. He was the OC, Simpson was ill prepared for USF and it took a long time to adjust for Milroe. Just a bad combo of a lot on the year. There were some good play designs and Rees called some decent games with QB missing this but he should know the ability of his QBs and don’t even get started on the bad snaps.

I'm even more confused now about what your point(s) are or have been. But RTR! anyway

 

[Moro Creek]

And last night JM signed a new NIL deal with Mickey D’s where in a future commercial he throws a pass from 50 yards away, striking the shake machine and suddenly making the always dysfunctional machine spring back to life. Jalen then looks a the camera, winks and says “I’m lovin’ It”…..

He will throw behind the machine!!!!!