As expected, Clowney picks USCe

Tide Warrior

All-American
Jun 7, 2009
4,073
0
0
Asheville, NC-Chapel Hill, NC
Would you use the words "icky" and "desperate" to describe Nick Saban's 2008 Bama class where he signed 32 kids (per Rivals)? How about Shula's 31 signees in 2005 (33 commits, 31 signed)? If I remember correctly Saban oversigned in 2008 in part because key recruits Julio Jones, Mark Ingram, and Marcell Dareus waited until last minute to announce (sound familiar?) and he was not sure he was going to get any or all of them. The implication that Saban is somehow above all this is not supported by the facts.

It is naive not to think that most coaches will oversign within the limits of the rules when faced with the possibility of landing a 5* kid. Besides, if a player is told up front that he may be required to GS and commits anyway, where is the ethical issue?
If you want to rant about what you do not like about UA take it to your board or go hang out with the oversigning conspiracy theorists on their board. Until someone breaks a rule I do not care nor will I question the way the staff makes the roster work.
 

peariver

1st Team
Jan 31, 2009
897
2
35
SW Georgia
If this is indeed true why wait till his birthday the 14th to sign? Is it just for the attention knowing after signing day he won't be getting it? Doesn't make sense for him to wait if his mind is already made up.
The rumor is, if you can believe there is a JC rumor floating around on the interweb, is that his girlfriend attends USCe and it will be his Valentine's gift to her. I don't have a clue if that is true or not, just read it somewhere over the course of the past week...
 

eladabbub

1st Team
Apr 2, 2007
393
0
0
Would you use the words "icky" and "desperate" to describe Nick Saban's 2008 Bama class where he signed 32 kids (per Rivals)? How about Shula's 31 signees in 2005 (33 commits, 31 signed)? If I remember correctly Saban oversigned in 2008 in part because key recruits Julio Jones, Mark Ingram, and Marcell Dareus waited until last minute to announce (sound familiar?) and he was not sure he was going to get any or all of them. The implication that Saban is somehow above all this is not supported by the facts.

It is naive not to think that most coaches will oversign within the limits of the rules when faced with the possibility of landing a 5* kid. Besides, if a player is told up front that he may be required to GS and commits anyway, where is the ethical issue?
Don't think he was talking about oversigning, but about having kids not sign their LOIs. And Saban knew that Julio was going to sign with Bama.
 

BJ4TIDE

All-SEC
Aug 11, 2007
1,504
867
137
If you want to rant about what you do not like about UA take it to your board or go hang out with the oversigning conspiracy theorists on their board. Until someone breaks a rule I do not care nor will I question the way the staff makes the roster work.
I think jcjbam 1 took the first shot. Though I don't like rival fans coming on here and bashing us either, I don't think that is what USCBAMA was doing. I think the point was that EVERYBODY does it, if need be. We DID "oversign" in '08, so all that was done here was a statement of facts to make the point that you should "remove the plank from your own eye before worrying about the speck in your brothers".
 

VegasTide

All-SEC
Dec 18, 2009
1,056
0
0
Las Vegas, NV
"Clowney will sign with USCE, don't want to be far from momma." Thats what was told Saturday at Saban's house by Coach Pruitt, supposedly according to a second hand source. Has anyone else here heard this?
The rumor is, if you can believe there is a JC rumor floating around on the interweb, is that his girlfriend attends USCe and it will be his Valentine's gift to her. I don't have a clue if that is true or not, just read it somewhere over the course of the past week...
We could all post a million theories about Clowney (and others) that we have read elsewhere, but who knows if any of them are true?

Here's my theory: That Clowney announces for Bama on Wednesday when he is being interviewed by ESPN. :biggrin2: Heck, if he wants, I'll put on a wig and give him roses if the g/f rumor is true.
 

Tide Warrior

All-American
Jun 7, 2009
4,073
0
0
Asheville, NC-Chapel Hill, NC
Plus if a player understands the school wants him to grayshirt I have no issue with it, but do with a school asking a player to grayshirt and not allow them to sign a NLI. That is wrong because if the school later decides they do not want them the player is without a team. By letting the grayshirt sign a NLI it guarantees the player a year at that school whether they play on the team or not at the schools expense. Without one it is like yes please commit to us but come the day of signing sorry we have no room for you to sign but can around next year and we iwll get you in, maybe.
 

TheRealPokeChop

Hall of Fame
Jul 7, 2010
6,990
7,654
187
Hueytown, Al
Would you use the words "icky" and "desperate" to describe Nick Saban's 2008 Bama class where he signed 32 kids (per Rivals)? How about Shula's 31 signees in 2005 (33 commits, 31 signed)? If I remember correctly Saban oversigned in 2008 in part because key recruits Julio Jones, Mark Ingram, and Marcell Dareus waited until last minute to announce (sound familiar?) and he was not sure he was going to get any or all of them. The implication that Saban is somehow above all this is not supported by the facts.

It is naive not to think that most coaches will oversign within the limits of the rules when faced with the possibility of landing a 5* kid. Besides, if a player is told up front that he may be required to GS and commits anyway, where is the ethical issue?
the 28 signature rule didnt exist in 28, if it didnt exist now i would have a problem with it. maybe you should drop half of your screen name btw.

and i would never hesitate to use the words icky about south carolina.
 

EveryThingGreen

BamaNation Citizen
Jan 19, 2011
62
0
0
KEY NUMBERS:


28: This is the max amount of L.O.I's that can be signed (the 4 EE's we have do not count against this number.)
32: This is the max amount of recruits that we can account for with L.O.I's (28 +4).
29: This is the max amount of kids we can bring to campus from this class (25 + 4 EE's).


So for example, with 31 right now, if we land Dukes-Cooper-Clowney, our total would be 34.

That means that 2 kids from this class can not sign a L.O.I.
That means that 5 kids from this class can not report to campus until January 2012.

That is assuming that we hold on to every commit and land everyone on our board.
 

USCBAMA

All-SEC
Sep 21, 2001
1,865
106
182
Columbia, SC, Richland
the 28 signature rule didnt exist in 28, if it didnt exist now i would have a problem with it. maybe you should drop half of your screen name btw.

and i would never hesitate to use the words icky about south carolina.
Born in Tuscaloosa, lifelong Bama fan. My parents went to Bama, my cousins went to Bama, my uncle played for Bama. 1990 USC graduate, long-suffering Gamecock fan since early 80s (grew up in Columbia). Only missed two Bama-UT games since 1983. Believe it or not I wore a Bama shirt to the game in Columbia this year (my son wore a Gamecock shirt and a Bama hat, though despite my protest he took the hat off at half-time). My user name fits me perfectly.

As for your post, I did not read it that you were only referencing complying with the new 28 signee rule, my bad. Still, the kids who may be left out on signing day were made aware of that when they committed and are aware they will either GS or go to their second option. Even without 28 rule in 2008, Bama signed 32 kids but could only bring in 25. How did the other 7 break down? Were there any who ended up not getting 2008 schollies to Bama? I'm not razzing on Bama, I'm just realistic enough to know that Bama has oversigned/overcommitted in the past and likely will oversign and/or over commit in the future.

I do agree with you that the NCAA and/or SEC should put a hard 28 rule in place where the most a school can sign is 28, period... but that's not the current rule.
 

sanjosecrimson

Hall of Fame
May 18, 2007
6,215
5,259
187
San Jose, California
PK is reporting now that JC has Clemson as a finalists after the visit. But than again his HS coach says UNC may also be a factor, but yet I heard he canceled that visit. This is starting to turnout to be the L James event of HS recruiting.

Clemson gave Clowney something to ponder

again, wake me up when NSD is over. I have never seen so much BS and drama in recruiting than this past year.

Calloway, Region, Pagan, Roberson, etc etc etc.
 

deliveryman35

Hall of Fame
Jul 26, 2003
13,003
1,198
287
57
Gadsden, AL
folks, there is a family situation that is going to force JC to stay in SC. I'll leave it at that....time to move on and focus all attention on CK. He's the only big fish left we're likely to get.
 

DurdenTider

All-SEC
Jan 3, 2011
1,322
0
0
Mobile, AL
If it's true that he's taking his last OV to LSU and not UNC I think that's great for us. UA's campus is in between SC and LA. More than likely he'll fly over us but there's always a chance to make a last minute UOV to UA after the OV to LSU. Plus, seeing a SEC West team's campus and facility other than UA could help.
 

TideFans.shop - 25% off Fan Favorites!

TideFans.shop - 25% off!

20oz Tervis Tumbler
20oz Tervis Tumbler from TideFansStore.com

Get this and many more items at our TideFans.shop!

Purchases may result in a commission being paid to TideFans.

Latest threads