Sounds like an individual like President Obama... The real problem I have with either is doing it and wasting money. Renaming of President Trump International Airpot will be 5.5 million taxpayer dollars... Heck, a full renaming of the DOW could run 500 million at the maximal expense. Obama Elementary would presumably run less, but in the setting of a much smaller school board budget.
Decline of the GOP - XVII
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Sounds like an individual like President Obama... The real problem I have with either is doing it and wasting money. Renaming of President Trump International Airpot will be 5.5 million taxpayer dollars... Heck, a full renaming of the DOW could run 500 million at the maximal expense. Obama Elementary would presumably run less, but in the setting of a much smaller school board budget.
The Democrats just went from "it's not going to happen in 2026" to IT COULD happen in 2026.
John Sears, Lee Atwater, and Karl Rove all had a real simple formula: can this person win? Is he (or she) electable, which is what led to compromise moderates in the Northeast and on the West Coast.
This party has so tied itself to a troll that it deserves what's coming.
One reminder for everyone:
don't be misled by polls today suggesting the best-known names are leading. They're familiar names is all. That's not to say that Vance isn't the leader, he most likely is. The modern setup almost invariably collapses towards the incumbent.
But I suspect Vance's only chance of ever being President is if the current stain on our nation dies in office, too.
I’ve been covering this over on the polls thread for months. And how rarely it works out like you see it at the moment.
Here’s one from (l believe) 1967…..showing LBJ had no prayer. Yet odds are……it ended up so close he may well have won.
Here’s one from (l believe) 1967…..showing LBJ had no prayer. Yet odds are……it ended up so close he may well have won.
Rubio: If now we've reached a point where the NATO alliance means that we can't use those bases to defend America's interests, then NATO is a one-way street…then why are we NATO? We’re going to have to reexamine that relationship. That’s a decision for the president.
Just a reminder that the senator who sponsored the bill which became law with broad bipartisan support that states a president cannot pull the US out of NATO without congressional approval was …Marco Rubio.
I cannot fathom how he can look at his face in the mirror every morning!
Yep. He's stuck with the reputation of his serving POTUS. I don't think Dick Cheney had any designs on being President, even though many say he was pulling all the strings for 43. But there is no way he would have won in 2008 - given the state of Bush's economy. Mondale didn't have a chance - given Carter's reputation. Well, he was almost as wooden as Lurch(2004), so that didn't help.
And Vance just comes off as just weird, even though America chose weird in the last election. I mean, Kamala Harris's running mate was the ONLY one in the race that WASN'T wearing makeup. That guyliner that Vance sports is just weird.
I don't - and I'll admit I don't have any "inside" information - but I don't think Cheney was EVER going to run for President, and I think it's what made him an asset as the VP. I know the theory was out there that Cheney was there to watch over Jr for Big Daddy Bush, but given W hired his Dad's enemy Donald
Rumsfeld as SECDEF, I have to question how valid that claim really is, too.
As far as 2008...I thought until September that what gave McCain a REAL CHANCE at winning was the fact he could separate himself from the Bush Administration, even cite cases where he and W disagreed, so he was the one Republican who could offer a CLEAR BREAK with the incumbent regime. Plus, he was running against (I'll say it) a black guy, so who knew how that was going to play out?
But I'll never forget the moment I heard on the news that McCain said - in the wake of the collapse of the economy and pending Great Depression II - "the fundamentals of the economy are strong." Right there, I said, "He just lost." The ONE ASSET he had that could help him win - he had just shown that like Bush, he was going to deny reality if it was bad. (Perhaps unsurprisingly, that is an almost verbatim quote delivered in Exeter, NH by Daddy Bush when he launched his 1992 campaign).
Vance is the leading candidate for 2028 just because he is VP.
Yep, but odds are still pretty high he winds up the nominee, too.
I'd rate his chances much higher than those of, for example, Kamala Harris being the nominee.
On the other hand, Michael Cohen (the political author, not the convicted felon lawyer) has pointed out that because of the reworking of the primary order for the Democrats (most notably South Carolina), blacks have A LOT MORE say than they once would have over who the Democratic nominee is. He said that despite her loss in 2024, her chances are better than they normally would be for that reason alone. (He is not advocating it, he was sort of warning folks what COULD happen).
He might wind up being the POTUS before then anyway.
If he'd be willing to break with the extremists in the Cabinet, that right there could get him elected in his own right.
I don't know that he's that smart.
No kidding... For a party that is idolizing hypermasculinity and lethality... JD is just weird looking.
I don’t know that he’s smart at all other than being self aware enough to know his path to success required him being a complete toadie.
I’m in disbelief that he was actually a Marine. I know he was non combat after basic training but he still had to survive that and the crucible so I guess he’s not a quitter.
But as far as the POTUS office goes I think his best ally is the little clot that could.
Either way, he's going to have to live with the mess his POTUS and his party has made of this country. The total lack of guardrails. No one daring to speak ill of the circus.
Quacks in charge of the nation's public health, drunk bimbo in charge of justice, a total incompetent at FBI - mass firings and resignations of quality agents. A Russian asset in national security. Not to mention another Middle East war which I see no end to.....lest he just TACO and leave the Strait of Hormuz in a total clustercopulaiton.
GOP Rep. Jeff Van Drew's message to Americans struggling with rising prices: "Maybe get yet another job"
Ron Johnson: "I was disappointed in the Supreme Court justices. The Constitution is not a suicide pact. Maybe their ruling will be on the law and Constitution, but you have to look at the bigger picture here."
You know Im starting to believe Republicans are becoming unhinged from their donors' beliefs. I think we are seeing a group of people Who believe they are untethered to any accountability even exempt from karma (or they just plain stupid).
The only people I know who would talk like this believe they are part of governing power structure of an implanted autocracy.
The only people I know who would talk like this believe they are part of governing power structure of an implanted autocracy.
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