Guillon breaks silence on his quitting team

[NBF_Bama_Cavalry]

I don't agree with how Guillon left the team, but I won't speculate as to his reasons nor his justification. I had hoped from the beginning that he would make a contribution to the team and I continued to hope so right up until the time he left. From all accounts, he had fairly impressive spring training sessions and did well in the fall camps also. Unfortunately, he had his chances to grab the starting job and he failed to take advantage of it. I don't know the reasons for his poor showing in games when he showed he was capable during practice. All I know is that Bama needed him and he wasn't up to the task. Whatever he does in the future, I wish him well.

 

[NYBamaFan]

I think this says it all about this situatiion:

That quote would mean more if Coach Bryant had never quit anything...

 

[PlayerUA]

Yep, it's a really bold move to quit on your teammates ... for the second time in your career. Not only that, but in the middle of the season! Aside from that, is there ever a player who has ever played the amount of time that he was told he would play? Even if what he said is 100% true, he just proved flat out the reason why he wasn't the starting QB. Had he gone out in silence, I would have said we should all appreciate what he contributed.

When Alabama benefited from his "quitting" by transfering from Miami he was praised by a vast majority of the people now bashing him.

Any way you spin it, firing a departing shot at Shula took audacity.

NYBamafan has made excellent posts in this thread (among others lately) and has made both accurate and perspective-laden observations.

Think about it this way...maybe Marc could have said worse - or maybe he will.

 

[BAMARICH]

Could the difference be emotion and youth instead of a lack of integrity?

Absolutely... but when you have a track record like MG's and when you use this approach, you can't fault people when they raise legitimate questions... whether they are true or not.

 

[TommyMac]

TommyMac you know I love your post. But this one I have to disagree with.
After reading "I Ain't Never Been Nothing but a Winner": Coach Paul Bryant's Book talks about how he walked out at Maryland, Kentucky, and Texas A&M. Coach Bryant wasn't a quitter. We do not know what Marc was told and what he was going through. We certainly do not know what Coach Bryant was told and what he was going through. I do believe the decision made by MG was very tough and not a quick fit of rage action. I honestly believe Marc loves Alabama but he had to move on in life just like Coach Bryant did. I am really surprised at the attacks on Marc Guillon. No one on this board knows anything about his situation. Lets leave it at that. Again Tommy I know how you feel and I do understand the point about quitting. I would like to know the whole story not just some media email report.
:BigA:

Big difference, Coach Bryant was building a career. At Maryland, the prez went over CPB's head regarding the discipline of a player, no HC can stand for that and maintain control over his players. At Kentucky, he just realized that basketball was always gonna be THE game in Lexington and Coach Bryant wasn't one to accept being second. At aTm, he just followed his heart. No explanation necessary.

MG pi$$ed in his Post Toasties with BAMA fans when he e-mailed newspapers in order to take subtle digs at the coaching staff.

 

[derek4tide]

That quote would mean more if Coach Bryant had never quit anything...

 

[BAMARICH]

When Alabama benefited from his "quitting" by transfering from Miami he was praised by a vast majority of the people now bashing him.

Any way you spin it, firing a departing shot at Shula took audacity.

NYBamafan has made excellent posts in this thread (among others lately) and has made both accurate and perspective-laden observations.

Think about it this way...maybe Marc could have said worse - or maybe he will.

You never know what will eventually be said. However, I will say that from a player's and coach's perspective, to say it now is detrimental to both team & coach. I would not have near the problem with MG's email had he waited till after the season. He has, after all, planted the thought in the minds of each player that CMS does not honestly deal with them. That's the last thing that players on the team need to hear at this point. He's going to get roasted on many fronts come tomorrow in our media... and he's brought it on himself... whether or not he's in the right or wrong with the situation.

 

[NYBamaFan]

Absolutely... but when you have a track record like MG's and when you use this approach, you can't fault people when they raise legitimate questions... whether they are true or not.

I'll agree - to a point. People will speculate about anything, and most are happy being ignorant. That is not a good thing.

Did he set himself up for criticism from Bama fans? Yes. But remember all of the fans calling for Shula's job in the stands against Duke? Their opinions don't matter, either...

 

[NYBamaFan]

Big difference, Coach Bryant was building a career.

I seriously doubt that anyone was criticizing Coach Bryant. The point is that some things are worth quitting over...

 

[PlayerUA]

You never know what will eventually be said. However, I will say that from a player's and coach's perspective, to say it now is detrimental to both team & coach. I would not have near the problem with MG's email had he waited till after the season. He has, after all, planted the thought in the minds of each player that CMS does not honestly deal with them. That's the last thing that players on the team need to hear at this point. He's going to get roasted on many fronts come tomorrow in our media... and he's brought it on himself... whether or not he's in the right or wrong with the situation.

All of that is true.

However, my point is that nothing Marc said was on accident. Is there no irony in the fact that fans started bashing him left and right the instant he left the team (and in many cases before) yet HE is in the "wrong" for his actions?

It's pretty clear that he and his family knew exactly what they were doing and what the results from that would be.

 

[GA Bamafan]

I think MG and CMS differed on something in the ULM game. (MG came in and threw a TD pass afterward CMS chewed MG for several minutes on the sideline - It was a world class chewing!). My guess he changed a play and threw the pass after receiving a different play.

During the games before ULM MG and CMS looked to be communicating and working together, afterward not so friendly non-verbal between the two on the sidelines. I believe if you go back and look at the games you can see what I mean.

That's my take.

For the first time in several years I felt comfortable with our back-up QB. Now I just don't know.

Roll Tide.

 

[BAMARICH]

All of that is true.

However, my point is that nothing Marc said was on accident. Is there no irony in the fact that fans started bashing him left and right the instant he left the team (and in many cases before) yet HE is in the "wrong" for his actions?

It's pretty clear that he and his family knew exactly what they were doing and what the results from that would be.

Don't know about that one... at least for my part, had he left the program either saying nothing or actually saying things like "I'm thankful that Alabama (or CMS) has given me the chance to further my football career/get an education, I would see things VERY differently. Don't know if the email today was pre-determined or if it was a knee-jerk... in either case, it is making him appear as if he's taking the low road in this case.

 

[crimsonbleeder]

Could the difference be emotion and youth instead of a lack of integrity?

...or brashness...or arrogance...

Franchione...Guillon...Guillon...Franchione...hmm...interesting parallels there...

 

[NYBamaFan]

...or brashness...or arrogance...

Franchione...Guillon...Guillon...Franchione...hmm...interesting parallels there...

This guy busted his butt for Bama for years, and now he is dirt... :conf2:

 

[PlayerUA]

Don't know about that one... at least for my part, had he left the program either saying nothing or actually saying things like "I'm thankful that Alabama (or CMS) has given me the chance to further my football career/get an education, I would see things VERY differently. Don't know if the email today was pre-determined or if it was a knee-jerk... in either case, it is making him appear as if he's taking the low road in this case.

I think the other threads on Marc Guillon can clear that up for you. He was being bashed relentlessly before he even released a statement...now those same people are saying "How dare he!" What's good for the goose...

What does he owe those that bash him regardless?

Whether he is on an arbitrary low road or not, I'd say his intention worked quite well.

 

[davefrat]

if "false representations" means that the coaching staff told him that he would be considered for the starting job if he worked on his attitude, technique, filmwork, conditioning, etc, then maybe he's on to something.

unfortunately, he never took to the message. i don't harbor ill will towards him, but it's getting time for him to take some responsibility. he was a real talent coming out of high school. he had some bad breaks with injuries. but that's no one's fault. and he was given a solid chance.

a classic underachiever.

 

[NYBamaFan]

if "false representations" means that the coaching staff told him that he would be considered for the starting job if he worked on his attitude, technique, filmwork, conditioning, etc, then maybe he's on to something.

unfortunately, he never took to the message. i don't harbor ill will towards him, but it's getting time for him to take some responsibility. he was a real talent coming out of high school. he had some bad breaks with injuries. but that's no one's fault. and he was given a solid chance.

a classic underachiever.

You know this as fact?

 

[PlayerUA]

a classic underachiever.

Kind of like some other recent heralded Alabama qbs?

 

[crimsonbear]

GABamaFan, you are right on with with what you just said. I had not put it all together until reading your post, but after that game CMS trotted to midfield and jestured toward the end of the field where BAMA had scored and it looked to me that he was apologizing to La Monroe's coach. If you have that game saved on tape or tivo check it out.

 

[THE BAMA IRISHMAN]

Big difference, Coach Bryant was building a career. At Maryland, the prez went over CPB's head regarding the discipline of a player, no HC can stand for that and maintain control over his players. At Kentucky, he just realized that basketball was always gonna be THE game in Lexington and Coach Bryant wasn't one to accept being second. At aTm, he just followed his heart. No explanation necessary.

MG pi$$ed in his Post Toasties with BAMA fans when he e-mailed newspapers in order to take subtle digs at the coaching staff.

TommyMac,

Marc is looking at his career also. Maybe Marc wasn't one to accept being second either and is following his heart. I just do not understand what explanation is necessary for Marc. I agree he should not have said anything and just got on with his life. I am against quitting, but again guitting is just that. No one wants to quit but sometimes people hurt inside and its impossible for them to except being in a situation they feel they can not control. Again not knowing his situation, it makes it hard to lock and load. Tommy I wasn't attacking your post. I am just trying to make sense of what appears to be a young man who is dealing with something within himself and was having a difficult time. I personally would like to talk with him. Not about football but getting on with his life. :BigA: