Is there a scenario where we still back into the playoffs?

[CajunCrimson]

We are now -200 to get in
Huge jump today

 

[BamaSC]

Heather Dinich who seems to have insider information when it comes to the CFP committee says Miami will get the #11 spot. I hope she is wrong.

She also says Clemson beating SMU helps Bama, so she’s clearly an idiot. Maybe she has insider information, but is still an idiot.

 

[JDCrimson]

So here is the way I see it. Ole Miss losses to Florida and Kentucky are basically identical to our losses to Vandy and OU.

I think Vandy in the first 6 games of the season was better than Florida in the first 6 games of the season and Florida was better than Vandy in the last 6 games of the season.

Kentucky and OU are basically the same team. Good defense and inept offense.

We boatraced LSU and OM boatraced SC. We both beat UGA.

There a lot of similarities between us and OM. I think what puts us a nose ahead of OM is we beat both USC and LSU and our non-conference was definitely more challenging.

 

[crimsonaudio]

Here's a good look at the numbers/rankings for @AlabamaFTBL. Recognize there’s lots of chatter out there about 2 vs. 3 loss teams, however that is just one factor. When you look at the @CFBPlayoff Principles for its Selection Committee, the first bullet point on the list of considerations is strength of schedule. Not all schedules and conferences are created equal. We’ve worked diligently to add more challenging non-conference home-and-homes, which is good for college football, not to mention the week-in and week-out of the SEC and it being the toughest in the country.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1863740333558993373

 

[Evil Crimson Dragon]

Lane is working overtime to whine his way into the CFP

 

[bamacpa]

Lane is working overtime to whine his way into the CFP

This year is probably the best shot he'll ever have in Oxford.

 

[AWRTR]

I’m of this opinion: if we get in, great- something to play for. If we don’t, we can’t throw shade on the committee or media talking heads. Want to secure your place? Don’t lose in Nashville or Norman.

This is my first can’t feelings

Lane is working overtime to whine his way into the CFP

The Florida job is now out of reach due to Napier getting his crap together so he’s stuck in Oxford in all likelihood so he’s got to pull out all the stops. I don’t blame him. I would do the same thing.

 

[statgrad96]

You know what would be funny and also make the rest of College Football implode is if…

Alabama and Clemson end up playing for the National Championship somehow….

 

[AWRTR]

You know what would be funny and also make the rest of College Football implode is if…

Alabama and Clemson end up playing for the National Championship somehow….

I’m here for it.

 

[Cruloc]

Maybe, if we do indeed get in....Danny Kanells head and Booger McFarlands head explode.

I know Booger would show his anger on tv....and I'd love it.

 

[Nolan]

I'd be shocked if we were not at least 17 point favorites. I would put money on that line.

Oh no, I wouldn’t think so, not that high. I believe there are sites where potential matchups can be looked at. I’m no expert, not in the least bit.

 

[KrAzY3]

Heather Dinich who seems to have insider information when it comes to the CFP committee says Miami will get the #11 spot. I hope she is wrong.

They could do it, but it would be an enormous reach and would not put the committee in the good graces of the SEC. The ACC already gets an automatic bid which they don't deserve. Moving Miami up a two or three spots from the poll and BCS rankings to put them in over Alabama would be an affront to the SEC.

The more I look at things the more solid Alabama's position seems to be. Polls, BCS, metrics, even Vegas are now all singing the same tune and that is that Alabama should be in.

To get back to the ACC thing, if the ACC is going to get gifted another playoff spot for Miami, then the only logical reaction would be for the SEC to push for the ACC (and Big 12 who are going to be gifted a spot as well) to lose their automatic bid. Let them earn it, Clemson and the winner of the Big 12 championship game both might get gift wrapped playoff spots. If the committee is giving out any more gifts than that, then the logical reaction is to take the other acts of charity away.

 

[Cruloc]

They could do it, but it would be an enormous reach and would not put the committee in the good graces of the SEC. The ACC already gets an automatic bid which they don't deserve. Moving Miami up a two or three spots from the poll and BCS rankings to put them in over Alabama would be an affront to the SEC.

The more I look at things the more solid Alabama's position seems to be. Polls, BCS, metrics, even Vegas are now all singing the same tune and that is that Alabama should be in.

To get back to the ACC thing, if the ACC is going to get gifted another playoff spot for Miami, then the only logical reaction would be for the SEC to push for the ACC (and Big 12 who are going to be gifted a spot as well) to lose their automatic bid. Let them earn it, Clemson and the winner of the Big 12 championship game both might get gift wrapped playoff spots. If the committee is giving out any more gifts than that, then the logical reaction is to take the other acts of charity away.

Committee......logical reaction.....and unicorns.

 

[Nolan]

That is a large part of the ‘why’ of me saying they don’t deserve it.

They are arrogant and disrespectful towards opponents they feel are inferior to them and do not properly prepare to play on a game by game basis.

They are also not in control of themselves and their emotions and have emotional outbursts on the field.

And I mean why shouldn’t they be that way when their “Captains” can’t control their emotions either.

The staff is also arrogant and think their gameplans are so great that they don’t have to make adjustments to the what the opposing staff is doing.

The entire team from the staff to the players reeks of entitlement like they can just suit up and the other team will lay down.

People talk about how they want accountability and discipline for these guys and to do things the right way but then you see the playoff carrot dangling and that goes away?

No it doesn’t work like this. There are consequences to actions.

Take your lumps and go to a Bowl Game and get better and do better next season.

9-3 with 2 embarrassing losses and embarrassing on the field actions doesn’t cut it.

You’ve been on TF a long time and I‘ve nearly always liked your input.

I‘m watching the same games as you. I definitely see some things I don’t like either.

But the way you lay everything out - is this from your perspective as a fan and observer, or do you have access to more?

 

[Nolan]

None of it is going to convince me that a 9-3 Alabama team that lost to Vandy, then Tennessee, and then with no more room for error gets drubbed by 3 TD's to a 5 loss SEC team "Deserves' to be in the Playoff for a National Championship.

It's a farce.

But again, it’s 12 teams, not 4 or even 6-8.

What WON’T be a farce is a team - any team, not just us - winning 4 games to be National Champs.

 

[The Ols]

This year is probably the best shot he'll ever have in Oxford.

Why? He’s the portal king and a pretty good recruiter.
Top 12 is right in his wheelhouse…

 

[Jean Lafitte]

Since before the win over Auburn, I've held the opinion that Bama will be in the Playoffs.

 

[4Q Basket Case]

Among the 3-loss teams, we have the best wins -- UGA, Mizzou, USCe, and dragging LSU in Baton Rouge. Additionally, USCe was lucky (our own inexplicably bad onside kick coverage) to be as close as they were to beating us.

We also have two bad losses -- getting physically beaten by Vandy and getting dope-slapped by OU are unacceptable.

Which wins out? I wish I knew.

 

[BamaInBham]

That is a large part of the ‘why’ of me saying they don’t deserve it.

They are arrogant and disrespectful towards opponents they feel are inferior to them and do not properly prepare to play on a game by game basis.

They are also not in control of themselves and their emotions and have emotional outbursts on the field.

And I mean why shouldn’t they be that way when their “Captains” can’t control their emotions either.

The staff is also arrogant and think their gameplans are so great that they don’t have to make adjustments to the what the opposing staff is doing.

The entire team from the staff to the players reeks of entitlement like they can just suit up and the other team will lay down.

People talk about how they want accountability and discipline for these guys and to do things the right way but then you see the playoff carrot dangling and that goes away?

No it doesn’t work like this. There are consequences to actions.

Take your lumps and go to a Bowl Game and get better and do better next season.

9-3 with 2 embarrassing losses and embarrassing on the field actions doesn’t cut it.

IMO, your attitude completely misses the mark.

I’ll just say that Alabama does deserve to make the 12 team playoff. It was agreed on by all teams before the year began. Alabama has performed well enough by objective metrics to be anywhere from #4-7.

And Vandy lost by 3 to #2 Texas, by 3 in 2 OT to 9-3, #18 @Mo, won @AU, lost by 7 @LSU. This is not the Vandy for which we all have sympathy.

IMO, Alabama having beaten the #s 5, 13 and 18 teams is more deserving than all but 7 or 8 teams even with the losses.

• USC does have a bad loss 27-7 at home to OM and beat #s 16&18. (My guess at the CFP ranking on Tues.)
• Texas hasn’t beaten a ranked team this year.
• Oregon has beaten 2 ranked teams
• PSU has beaten 1 ranked team
• Clemson & SMU have beaten 0 ranked teams
• OSU has beaten 2 ranked teams and lost at home to a 5 loss team last week.
• UT has beaten 1 ranked team and lost, really dominated more than the score, at home to Ark
• ND has not beaten one ranked team and lost at home to Northern Illinois
• Boise has not beaten one ranked team
• Indiana has not beaten one ranked team
• UGA has beaten 3 ranked teams and was dominated by OM, was out played by 1-SEC win UK and won by 1, gave up 31 to the worst team in the SEC, MSU, in a 10 point win, was out played by GT who gave up a late fumble to allow a tie and UGA won in 7 OTs
• 
  The top 10 teams, plus Clemson, not counting UGA, have 8 wins vs ranked teams among them (I may have missed some). Alabama has 3 alone, tied with UGA for the most in the country.

 

[BamaInBham]

FULL DISCLOSURE: If we get in I'll root for Bama like it was the 1992 Sugar Bowl.

But for those who have doubts about whether Bama deserves it, I'd say it's not because we doubt Bama and "believe" other teams are more deserving. I certainly don't.

My concern is that I don't want the bad tendencies/attitudes/politics etc. to be rewarded with a playoff run that, if successful for a game or two, might further encourage the problems of the past couple of years. It's the belief that not making the playoff could possibly help the program in the long run.

Disagree but think I understand.