New Offensive Coordinator (OFFICIAL: Sark)

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NoNC4Tubs

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Here's another reason not to think about the hire - my Barn friends tell me they got the QB they needed, so they are about to take over CFB anyway.
Not without improving the coaching and development...:cool2:
 

Tide&True

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i hope whoever we choose isnt someone as boring as nussey or the florida coach....we need a guy that can develop and use the strengths of Hurts and the new guys coming in (a quality spread guy).
I agree 100%. Kiffin got us out of the "predictable" mode.


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NationalTitles18

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The court of public opinion is not a court of law. Besides, Briles has ADMITTED to wrongdoing.

"There were some bad things that happened under my watch," Briles said. "And for that, I'm sorry. ... I was wrong. I'm sorry. I'm going to learn. I'm going to get better."
I guess rape is either a minor issue or he failed in dealing with major issues.

"Head coaches are sometimes protected, in certain instances, from minor issues. Now, major issues I was always made aware of."
Either way, the man is responsible for the failures.

the Pepper Hamilton report, which detailed how Baylor -- and specifically members of the football program -- failed to respond to reports of sexual assaults.
COMPLETELY inappropriate.

"In certain instances ... athletics and football personnel affirmatively chose not to report sexual violence and dating violence to an appropriate administrator outside of athletics," one passage of the summary states. "In those instances, football coaches or staff met directly with a complainant and/or a parent of a complainant and did not report the misconduct. As a result, no action was taken to support complainants, fairly and impartially evaluate the conduct under Title IX, address identified cultural concerns within the football program, or protect campus safety once aware of a potential pattern of sexual violence by multiple football players."
Plausible deniability just didn't pan out like he had hoped, I guess.

Briles said a major lesson from what transpired at Baylor was that he needed to be more involved and to delegate less when it came to investigating players' misconduct and disciplining them.
"I would start with being more proactive in everything that goes on with any inkling of a problem that we have with any student-athlete," he said. "I would want to be the first to know. And I would be personally involved with everything that went on from the discipline issue ... and then make sure that we have policies and procedures and protocols in place to protect our students."
This is what he allowed to transpire under his watch.

Asked about an alleged gang rape in 2011 involving a Baylor women's volleyball player and multiple football players, Briles declined to say much, calling it an "ongoing situation." Briles said it was a "sketchy incident" and that there were "different versions of what transpired." Asked what he did upon learning of the allegations, Briles answered, "It was investigated within our staff."The Pepper Hamilton report summary specifically criticized such a practice and described the football staff's internal inquiries as those "which improperly discredited complainants and denied them the right to a fair, impartial and informed investigation. ... In some cases, internal steps gave the illusion of responsiveness to complainants but failed to provide a meaningful institutional response."
Briles said he never met with the woman and did not know the names of the accused players at the time.
Read between the lines here - he isn't saying it didn't happen, just that it didn't cause a threat to campus safety.

The Pepper Hamilton summary noted that Baylor's failure to adequately respond to reports of sexual assault committed by football players had, in some instances, posed "a risk to campus safety," to which Briles said he disagreed.
"I would never allow that to ever happen under my watch. If I felt like somebody on our team was a threat to the student population, I mean, that just wouldn't happen," he said. "Where they're getting that information or what their facts are to have that, I don't know."
The man is toxic.

His coaching future remains in doubt, though. The Title IX lawsuit in which he is named as a defendant is pending. The McLennan County District Attorney's Office has asked Baylor for access to the Pepper Hamilton report materials to see if there are other crimes that need to be prosecuted and if there is evidence of misconduct by Baylor coaches, faculty or staff.

The NCAA has been investigating Baylor since May, when the university self-reported problems to the NCAA. Among the possible sanctions the NCAA has at its disposal is a show-cause penalty on Briles, which would make it difficult for any other school to hire him without meeting certain NCAA demands.
I wonder why he would use that specific language. My take: He knew he was selling his soul for victories on the field.

Briles, who said he is going to do "everything within my power to hopefully get the opportunity to coach again," said he lost more than his job at Baylor.
"I lost some of my soul, quite honestly," he said.
Guilt is a peculiar thing. People are nearly universally unable to avoid giving themselves away. The evidence and his own words condemn him, IMHO. We don't need to go anywhere near him. Period.

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...ibility-mishandled-sexual-assault-allegations
 
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CaliforniaTide

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I agree 100%. Kiffin got us out of the "predictable" mode.


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I'd also add that Kiffin was able to not only make Alabama less predictable on offense, but also able to play different styles of offense when the situation called for it. Alabama had its standard RPO offense, but they added the ability to score in shootouts (see Clemson NCG, 2016 Ole Miss game), slugfests (10-0 LSU win), all combined with its outstanding defense. While I loved McElwain as an OC, his offense was built for a particular style, and if opposing teams forced Alabama out of that style, it was hard to keep up in a shootout or come from a large deficit. The next OC, whoever he is, needs to keep the unpredictability, ability to play in any type of scoring situation, as well as develop QBs for positive, long-term growth.
 

jef0071

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Do you have any proof of this at all? Or are you just spewing ignorance?

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It's all ignorance, because nobody knows anything, but everyone is quick to judge one man. Answer me this... Why weren't these days players arrested, why aren't they kicked out of school? If the administration at baylor and the local law enforcement aren't gonna do anything, how is Briles supposed to do anything? These players aren't even arrested.
 

Airborne Tider

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It's all ignorance, because nobody knows anything, but everyone is quick to judge one man. Answer me this... Why weren't these days players arrested, why aren't they kicked out of school? If the administration at baylor and the local law enforcement aren't gonna do anything, how is Briles supposed to do anything? These players aren't even arrested.
I bet you defended Joe Paterno too huh?

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BamaMark.

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It's all ignorance, because nobody knows anything, but everyone is quick to judge one man. Answer me this... Why weren't these days players arrested, why aren't they kicked out of school? If the administration at baylor and the local law enforcement aren't gonna do anything, how is Briles supposed to do anything? These players aren't even arrested.
You now have me convinced you are related to Art Briles.
 

crimsonaudio

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Okay, drop the Briles and Paterno talk and get back on topic. Any further posts about either will be deleted.
 

Ole Man Dan

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Contrary to what most on here think, not every one wants to coach at Alabama or work for CNS.
That is correct.
Not everyone is willing to be at the complex early, coach all day, then burn additional hours at night, work for a task master who is sometimes hard to please, for a measly 1/2 million to a million a year. Not everybody is cut out to be on TV every ballgame making decisions that everybody will second guess. Not everybody is cut out to recruit as relentless as is needed to attract the top recruitment classes in the nation. (Recruitment is a Year round Season at Alabama) While Alabama pays top dollar our Coaching Staff earns every penny thru sweat equity, and hard work. Anything less and they are looking for a job in February.
Alabama Coaches speak with one voice, and that voice belongs to Coach Saban.
 

BamaMoon

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That is correct.
Not everyone is willing to be at the complex early, coach all day, then burn additional hours at night, work for a task master who is sometimes hard to please, for a measly 1/2 million to a million a year. Not everybody is cut out to be on TV every ballgame making decisions that everybody will second guess. Not everybody is cut out to recruit as relentless as is needed to attract the top recruitment classes in the nation. (Recruitment is a Year round Season at Alabama) While Alabama pays top dollar our Coaching Staff earns every penny thru sweat equity, and hard work. Anything less and they are looking for a job in February.
Alabama Coaches speak with one voice, and that voice belongs to Coach Saban.
No, others prefer to do it their way...which probably won't work. There's a growing list of coaches from the CNS tree who have worked under him and then gone to be successful or budding HCs. I'd say those who are willing to do it put themselves on a "faster track" than those who might prefer to do it their way.

But you're right. Some don't, but I'd say the smarter ones should listen and carefully consider if they get a call from CNS.
 

CrimsonSEC

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That is correct.
Not everyone is willing to be at the complex early, coach all day, then burn additional hours at night, work for a task master who is sometimes hard to please, for a measly 1/2 million to a million a year. Not everybody is cut out to be on TV every ballgame making decisions that everybody will second guess. Not everybody is cut out to recruit as relentless as is needed to attract the top recruitment classes in the nation. (Recruitment is a Year round Season at Alabama) While Alabama pays top dollar our Coaching Staff earns every penny thru sweat equity, and hard work. Anything less and they are looking for a job in February.
Alabama Coaches speak with one voice, and that voice belongs to Coach Saban.
...and if they do it right, jobs are looking for them in February.
 

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Contrary to what most on here think, not every one wants to coach at Alabama or work for CNS.
Fact is, having worked for Nick Saban at Alabama is massive selling point for assistants in finding better jobs. I can assure you there is no shortage of assistants who would want to work for CNS. Those that don't aren't willing to pay the price to be a champion in their profession.
 
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