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[IH8Orange]

Re: Wonder what the final damages are going to be for Penn State? Jerry Sandusky was

I remember being drug down Interstate 65 on the front of an 18 wheeler for 2.5 miles and I was in shock during the event. I did some weird things to get the attention of the driver but I was in shock.

Holy cow! I would think that anyone would be in shock in a situation like that. I don't know the circumstances, but it sounds like you are lucky to be here.

 

[SimplyTide]

Re: Wonder what the final damages are going to be for Penn State? Jerry Sandusky was

I certainly hope that is the case.

Discussion of what people would do in the context of a particular situation is called speculation until the situation occurs and then it becomes history. I've read a lot of history and history is usually more depressing than speculation.

Sad, but true - but we can still recognize those who were not up to the task. Not being sure that we would have been should not keep us from hoping and expecting that we would have been.

I guess that we need to expect greatness from ourselves and hope that we are capable of delivering when the time comes.

 

[IH8Orange]

Re: Wonder what the final damages are going to be for Penn State? Jerry Sandusky was

Sad, but true - but we can still recognize those who were not up to the task. Not being sure that we would have been should not keep us from hoping and expecting that we would have been.

I guess that we need to expect greatness from ourselves and hope that we are capable of delivering when the time comes.

We also need to be very thankful and hope that we aren't ever put in those situations. I think that it is sad when people make rash moral judgements against other people based on the difference between those others' reaction to a situation which that person has not faced personally and that person's expectation of how they would react in the situation. We may have to make a legal judgement in the case that we are on a jury, but even then we should never think so highly of ourselves that we feel morally superior to that other person. I think that the prudent reaction is to reserve the moral harangue, lament the fact that the situation occurred, be disappointed that the other person did not make the best decision under the circumstances, and then pray that you never have to face that situation yourself.

 

[deliveryman35]

Re: Wonder what the final damages are going to be for Penn State? Jerry Sandusky was

The fact that JoePa has lawyered up and gone into seclusion sends the message to me that he knew much, much more about this tragic situation than he has previously stated. I am losing more and more respect for him by the hour.

Also, heard last night that his nomination for the presidential medal of freedom, the highest civilian honor, submitted by both Pennsylvania US senators to the White House has been jointly recalled. By the time this investigation is over with, I would not be surprised if his statue at Beaver Stadium was pulled down.

So much for his legacy and a quiet retirement. He may not spend one day in jail, but he is going to face some very bitter consequences for turning a blind eye to these atrocities.

 

[Dallas4Bama]

Re: Wonder what the final damages are going to be for Penn State? Jerry Sandusky was

As I think about this more and more, I think that there's something that everyone should take away from this: temper your judgements and your ideas of what you would have done because anyone who thinks that they know what they would have done is fooling themselves. I chuckle to myself anytime I hear "well, if it had been me..." because I've seen the outcome of those situations and it usually doesn't correspond to the prior "wishcasting". The prospect of actual consequences usually introduces a lot more circumspection and even though it sometimes causes us to not do things that we should have done, it is a self-protection mechanism.

Chuckle all you like, I witnessed an attack on a lady in an alley behind a bar. There was no thinking to it, I ran at the guy and did my best to tackle him. I wasn't able to take him down, but another guy who saw the commotion tackled him. The perp ended up with a broken arm and some bruised ribs by the time the police got there. We were told we might face some civil action from him for the way he was detained before the police got there, but we never heard any more from it.

 

[SimplyTide]

Re: Wonder what the final damages are going to be for Penn State? Jerry Sandusky was

We also need to be very thankful and hope that we aren't ever put in those situations. I think that it is sad when people make rash moral judgements against other people based on the difference between those others' reaction to a situation which that person has not faced personally and that person's expectation of how they would react in the situation. We may have to make a legal judgement in the case that we are on a jury, but even then we should never think so highly of ourselves that we feel morally superior to that other person. I think that the prudent reaction is to reserve the moral harangue, lament the fact that the situation occurred, be disappointed that the other person did not make the best decision under the circumstances, and then pray that you never have to face that situation yourself.

Generally I agree with this thought process. I guess that this is just too vile for me to go along with it this time. But I pray that most people would intervene to protect a 10 year old boy being raped in a shower.

 

[big_fan78]

I can't help but wander how many adults seen him doing inappropriate things with children and walked away. We know of at least two today.

I can only imagine what that does to a child. I mean to see an adult, they have to think are rescued. Only to see them turn around and walk away.

No wonder children do not tell adults. How are they to trust adult., If they don't even stop someone that is hurting a child, like that, in front of them.

Can you imagine if people are turning their heads on this, then what else and how often are they turning their heads to other stuff.

And I know not all adults would react this way, but for a situation like this, It should not have got this far.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

Bobby Bowden speaks about Sandusky and Paterno.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...ormer-fla-state-coach-calls-paterno-negligent

It's a shocking story," Bowden told The Herald. "The worst thing is what the guy did to those boys, then the second thing is the fact that Penn State kept it quiet. They could have stopped it, about eight years of it, or nine years of it. Now you had eight, nine years. There's no telling how many kids were affected after that."

Bowden said he wasn't surprised by Paterno's firing or bothered by the way it was handled.

"No, I wouldn't say that [I was bothered by that]," Bowden said. "The thing is ... How much did he know? I don't know. Just listening to him talk, he must have known more than he should have said. Because he said [when the scandal first broke], 'I wish I would have done more."'

"He'll face up to it," Bowden said of Paterno.

 

[Crimson Surfer]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...omination-penn-state-scandal-article-1.975957

Joe Paterno lost his job and his legacy over the past two days, thanks to his role in the explosive Penn State sex abuse scandal. Now, he’s lost his chance at being awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

In September, senators Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), Bob Casey (D-Pa.) and Rep. Glenn Thompson (R-Pa.) nominated Paterno for the nation’s highest civilian honor. On Thursday, Toomey and Casey rescinded their nomination less than 24 hours after the Nittany Lions legend was axed by the university.

“We hope the proper authorities will move forward with their investigation without delay,” Toomey and Casey said in a joint statement. “Penn State is an important institution in our commonwealth. We should turn our attention to the victims of these atrocious crimes and ensure they get the help they need. Our hearts and prayers go out to them and their families.”

 

[RollTide2U]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...omination-penn-state-scandal-article-1.975957

Wow. This whole thing is so sad on so many levels.

 

[GMacFan]

Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

Sorry if this has been reported, but now their are rumors that Sandusky was pimping out boys to high bidders. This comes from Mark Madden, who actually broke this story in early April, so the rumor could very well be true as Madden has been following this (and right about it) for a while now. He also claims that Sandusky was told to resign behind the scenes by the Penn State administration in exchange for a cover up. So you have not only abuse but sex slavery, in America at a university, and several VIPs of the Penn State football program in the know.

 

[GMacFan]

Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

As Americans we find it mind-boggling that things like this can go on in our country. I've been following reports of sex slavery and articles and news stories before this broke out and it appears it goes on more often than we think. As a wise man once said, evil prevails when good men do nothing.

 

[Chukker Veteran]

Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

People are occasionally put in horrible situations that call for a snap decision to either help or walk away. Some will rise to the challenge and some will wimp out. There is no excuse or justification for not trying to help a ten year old child being raped.

 

[SavannahDare]

Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

As Americans we find it mind-boggling that things like this can go on in our country. I've been following reports of sex slavery and articles and news stories before this broke out and it appears it goes on more often than we think. As a wise man once said, evil prevails when good men do nothing.

As a collective, we Americans are adept at denial. We really don't want to believe that people who seem so like us are capable of unspeakable acts. Even after the whole Catholic church thing, even after this PSU situation, we will eventually lull ourselves back into a state of malignant disbelief and disinterest.

 

[TIDE-HSV]

Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

A PSU official was interviewed on NPR this morning. I didn't get what his title was. The first statement was to the effect that things were going to get much worse. I thought that that dovetailed with what we've been hearing. The next statement, I couldn't figure out which was more shocking - the fact that it was internally inconsistent or the fact that he seemed blithely unaware that it was. He said: "Things are going to come out that we don't know about yet." Who is we? The poor guy seemed shell-shocked. Can't really blame him. He's having to face the fact that such unspeakable evil exists and that it's existing right in your own "house," so to speak, and being committed by people you've known up close and personal for many years...

 

[SavannahDare]

Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

Successful pedophiles (meaning those who are able to abuse children without being discovered or brought to justice over many years) are usually deeply connected in ways that the internet now makes much more simple for them. Child pornography and child sex trading are typically heavily at play. These guys have a network that is global and I would not be surprised in the least if we find layers upon layers of evil that stretches far beyond the borders of Happy Valley.

 

[SimplyTide]

Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

It is shocking to me how successfully the PSU administration is playing the victim card here. They are not the victims. They are the criminals. They created a culture that more than allowed for this type of cover up, it encouraged it.

And ESPN's coverage of the PSU game was twisted. They treated it like a funeral - like Paterno was absent because he had died unexpectedly instead of being fired for allowing the rape of children in his facilities for a decade.

 

[Florida Tom]

All of this just makes you sick. We all need to put more pressure on our law makers to protect our children. In Alabama & in Florida there are to many cases that are not handled correctly. I know of one where the guy had 15 counts against him, while on bail got caught with the kid again. Well, rich daddy gave $50k to his lawyer, lawyer holds a fund raiser for the judge. Perp gets 3 whole years, with "good behavior" will be out in 18 months.

The whole mess at PSU was because no one took it seriously we all need to ask ourselves if we do?

 

[Bad Pony]

Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

A PSU official was interviewed on NPR this morning. I didn't get what his title was. The first statement was to the effect that things were going to get much worse. I thought that that dovetailed with what we've been hearing. The next statement, I couldn't figure out which was more shocking - the fact that it was internally inconsistent or the fact that he seemed blithely unaware that it was. He said: "Things are going to come out that we don't know about yet." Who is we? The poor guy seemed shell-shocked. Can't really blame him. He's having to face the fact that such unspeakable evil exists and that it's existing right in your own "house," so to speak, and being committed by people you've known up close and personal for many years...

I don't know if this has been brought into the discussion but it was also reported a couple of days ago that Sandusky was STILL recruiting for PSU this past spring.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45246746

 

[major tidefan]

The Penn st fans are still in denial about King Joe.I saw two grown men kneeling outside his house weeping as though worshipping.