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Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

Does anyone think that Sandusky covered his tracks so well and the school covered their tracks so well, in the end Sandusky will get off?

I don't think so, but they may have to move the trial to Barrow, Alaska to seat a viable jury.
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

The quote says they "had discussions." To me, that's a far cry from saying, "I TRIED TO FREAKING REPORT THIS AND THE IDIOTS REFUSED TO LISTEN!"

I think he's trying to save face for failing to stop this.

Yeah, I tend to agree. I've wondered since this email thing came out if he was lying and trying to save face. If he had gone to the police, wouldn't that be in the grand jury testimony? Wouldn't he make sure it was?
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

I am starting to think that this is a Police Coverup.....if there was a DA looking into it, it had to have gone to the Police.....

After that -- it sounds like a "city" issue!
 
if there was a DA looking into it, it had to have gone to the Police.....

This is absolutely untrue, especially in cases like this. And yes, some things in this whole case were reported--remember the whole "I wish I were dead" comment? There were investigators listening in. McQueary never said he reported this incident to police. He said there were "discussions," and even that was in an email meant to be kept private. He's saying he stopped the attack, but then that he didn't. He says made sure it had stopped...what, does he mean he waited until Sandusky finished?

If you want to know what McQueary did, read the GJ testimony. He didn't mention going to the police then because he didn't go to the police, and he didn't mention intervening because he didn't intervene.
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

I think that McQueary is the convenient fall-guy for everyone.

He was a graduate assistant in one of the most powerful football programs in history, under one of the most legendary coaches of all time and the person that he would be accusing was also a legend who was the founder of a charity for children that was not only raking in millions of dollars, but had affiliations with some of the most powerful people in the state. Look at his options:

1.) Beat up Sandusky and rescue the child. If he had undertook this action, he would have immediately been arrested regardless of the situation and Sandusky and his powerful allies would have had time to cover up everything. The child would have been threatened, most likely, into not testifying against Sandusky and the attack would have been attributed to some internal feud within the athletic department. McQueary would have been surely convicted of assault, lost his graduate assistant position and then likely never been offered another opportunity anywhere.

2.) Go to the police. He allegedly did this and there's now no record of it. If Sandusky's judge has connections to his charity, it's likely that many police and other municipal officials did also. His complaint was probably lodged and then the athletic department and administration at PSU offered their "assistance" in the investigation. Sandusky denied everything, his reputation overwhelmed the credibility of McQueary and then an unofficial arbitration probably took place between Sandusky's power structure and a completely powerless McQueary: forget it and we will too. Fight it and become part of the Poconos.

3.) Go to JoePa and attempt to gain an ally that has the power to actually do something that won't necessarily turn you into a John Doe in the morgue. If JoePa (the most powerful person in the area) says that he'll handle it, then you can claim that you went to the ultimate authority and the culpability falls to him. If nothing is resolved, you will have to fight your conscience and you will lose respect for that authority in which you put your trust, but you had to protect yourself within this environment as well.

4.) Go public. McQueary could have gone public after his other actions failed and it might have worked to bring down Sandusky. However, a single accuser against a legend with a lot of powerful allies must have some proof or some allies of his own. The children that were being victimized were being helped by this charity and there's no telling what types of threats and other leverage would be used to keep them in denial. I doubt that many of the power structure at PSU would have supported him because what is happening now would have happened then. Once again, he likely would have been discredited, destroyed and maybe even worse.

I think that far too many people either think completely with their heart, they let outrage skew their visions of reality or maybe they're just too naive to understand the amount of inertia that McQueary would have been forced to overcome to really effect any scrutiny upon Sandusky at that point, given their diametric positions and reputations within the program at PSU.
Bingo. the low man on the totem pole with far less power and connections than the rest of the criminals.
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

If McQueary or Paterno either one was the type person who should be working with youth, they would have raised all hell until Sandusky was in jail. Period. End of discussion.

If they didn't have the moxie to do that, they shouldn't be coaches, at the very least.

If Sandusky denies what McQueary claimed, McQueary's response should be fine, let's both take a lie detector test before trial to see where we stand. I understand it's inadmissable in court, but Sandusky's refusal to take it would end any speculation, and cut the legs out from under his defense.

Paterno could have insisted Sandusky pass a lie dector test when it was still just a school matter.

Cops do that very often when considering who to charge and and what charges to bring.
 
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Sorry if someone has already brought this up - I was talking to a teacher about this yesterday. He mentioned how Sandusky's attorney claims that Victim #2 says the actions didn't happen. This should cause a few questions -

1) No one knows who Victim #2 is. How do you know who he is?
2) The defense isn't supposed to be talking to witnesses/victims. How do you know this information?
 
If McQueary were the fall guy, would he not have been fired instead of Paternocchio?
Good point. Thing is, he's never gonna coach again at Penn State, at least I'd be highly surprised if he did. I think his career is over. But I think Sandusky and his crew are going to paint him as the liar as their defense, or at least part of it.
 
Re: Former Penn St. DC arrested for sexual assault of a minor

By all means find a way to bring race into this now. I'm sure she has plenty of proof. If I received death threats I'd sure keep them.
 
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Re: Former Penn St. DC Jerry Sandusky arrested for 40 counts of sexual assaults of mi

Sorry if someone has already brought this up - I was talking to a teacher about this yesterday. He mentioned how Sandusky's attorney claims that Victim #2 says the actions didn't happen. This should cause a few questions -

1) No one knows who Victim #2 is. How do you know who he is?
2) The defense isn't supposed to be talking to witnesses/victims. How do you know this information?

as I alluded to a few pages back there are a lot of rumors floating around about #2 here...all of them are various reports of his not being with us anymore.
 
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