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BamaScooter16

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Re: Jeremy Elder arrested.

dennychimes76 said:
You say they were stopped because of the ethnicity of the driver? Yet you say
"mind you, there could be circumstances I wasn't aware of in those instances.." No kidding.

UAPD has no jurisdiction at DCH. DCH employs (or did) Wackenhut Security not UAPD officers. Perhaps you should talk to DCH Security about parking arrangements for deliveries. :BigA:
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I have seen several instances of UA cops stopping someone who is black or hispanic for no reason readily apparent to me (ie speeding, running red lights or stop signs, littering, etc.) Furthermore, it is my understanding that they don't have the jurisdiction to write any kind of traffic citation that can be heard in municipal or district court. Only Tuscaloosa PD and SO as well as AL State Troopers can write traffic citations on campus. So that tells me the UA cops I've seen are just trying to stir up trouble.

Now don't get me wrong. Most cops (UA included) are good hard working individuals trying to keep the public safe. Its the ones that think because they have a badge and a gun they can have impunity for their actions that tick me off.

As for the DCH situation, I park in the ED entrance every night. I've had a couple of times where UA (not TPD) cops have come up and hassled me about it. Its at that point when I open my trunk and show them the two to three large bins of medicine that I had to haul all the way from B'ham that they back off. The times that's happened they were very rude and unprofessional as well.
 
bamanut_aj

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JeffAtlanta said:
That isn't accurate at all.

The bottom line is that college football coaches are not gods that can look into a man's soul and determine who is good and bad.
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again, my post was entirely tongue-in-cheek in reference to the idea that CPB never would have signed Jeremy because he could sniff out troublemakers.
 
GrayTide

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Re: Jeremy Elder arrested.

TheCrimson6512 said:
No offense to anyone, but why does it matter what Coach Bryant would do? Paul Bryant is not the coach at the University of Alabama now, Nick Saban is. The fact of the matter is, this is a different time we are living in. People seem to be worse now then they were back then, for whatever reason. It doesn't matter who recruited him, Shula or Saban, the kid did something wrong and he has to pay the price of his actions.
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If this proves to be true and Elder is quilty then I do not think anyone has to worry about him remaining on the team and taking up a scholarship. It should be obvious that because of the type individuals being recruited today every team has its share of thugs, including the University of Alabama. Elder's actions are not the fault of CNS recruiting him, this type behavior happens everyday in this country, it is the fault of society.
 
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JBG

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Not that there is a bright side to this, there definitely isn't, but now we have one more spot for our 32 recruits.
 
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Re: Jeremy Elder arrested.

GrayTide said:
If this proves to be true and Elder is quilty then I do not think anyone has to worry about him remaining on the team and taking up a scholarship. It should be obvious that because of the type individuals being recruited today every team has its share of thugs, including the University of Alabama. Elder's actions are not the fault of CNS recruiting him, this type behavior happens everyday in this country, it is the fault of society.
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DING DING DING, we have a winner. It may not be the PC thing to place blame on parents/societal norms, but when I grew up PC didn't exist.
 
BamaHoHo

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Re: Jeremy Elder arrested.

JBG said:
Not that there is a bright side to this, there definitely isn't, but now we have one more spot for our 32 recruits.
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No we dont. We can only offer 25 scholarships to incoming freshman. If one is freed up it would probably go to a walk on or add 1 to next year if the 85 limit allows us to sign less than 25
 
dayhiker

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Re: Jeremy Elder arrested.

BamaHoHo said:
No we dont. We can only offer 25 scholarships to incoming freshman. If one is freed up it would probably go to a walk on or add 1 to next year if the 85 limit allows us to sign less than 25
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That's assuming we had 25 spots for the incoming class.
 
Tidewater

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Re: Jeremy Elder arrested.

GrayTide said:
if this is true I am reminded about casting stones at other programs.
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Before I don my hair shirt, I would like to point out that there is a difference. If Coach Saban went over to the victims' house for a visit, and the victims mysteriously dropped the charges, and Elder stayed with the team and played, then the comparisons would be apt.
Instead, Saban immediately and categorically suspended the player. If and when Elders pleads guilty or is convicted (assuming for the sake of argument he is guilty), I believe he will never get near an Alabama football uniform again.
While it is an embarrassment to the University for a Saban-recruited player to get charged with this, what the University does from here says a lot.
Instead of being like other universities (where coaches get charges dropped after talking to the victim's parents or offer the "boys will be boys" excuse), it would appear that the University and the Coach have taken every prudent and appropriate action.
 
olderthandirt

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Where would J. Elder be on 3 deep roster

For those in the know. Where would J. Elder have been on the 3 deep roster in 2008?
 
Ldlane

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Re: Jeremy Elder arrested.

bamabryan said:
And I have a feeling this thread is about to get locked down. :smile:
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Not really, but when you start discussing the "societal responsibility" of crime then you are asking for a "non-sports" debate.
 
bamachile

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Re: Jeremy Elder arrested.

Tidewater said:
While it is an embarrassment to the University for a Saban-recruited player to get charged with this, what the University does from here says a lot.
Instead of being like other universities (where coaches get charges dropped after talking to the victim's parents or offer the "boys will be boys" excuse), it would appear that the University and the Coach have taken every prudent and appropriate action.
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Agreed. The University seems to have taken an ideal course on this one. I am not embarrassed by the University (as a matter of fact, I am relieved to see UA stand as a bastion of justice and equity so far), but rather by the behavior of a representative of the University.

Let us hope that as the staff at UA continue to navigate these waters, something good may be drawn from something that is at the moment very, very bad.
 
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jps1983

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Re: Where would J. Elder be on 3 deep roster

Not really in the know, but I don't think he would've been a starter, but I think he'd have been either #2 or #3 behind Greenwood for that end spot.
 
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